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Old 24 February 2003, 08:27 PM
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i train 4 times a week but would like to loose some fat from the stomach area. my problem being beer only drink once a week but generaly too much . my diet is`nt to bad 2 meals a day and around 2500cals or less not sure about fat.
i dont think i`m over weight,11 and a half stone 5feet 11.

can anyone recomend a supplement which will help me

mike

ps and don`t say give up beer
Old 24 February 2003, 08:32 PM
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how the hell can you possibly consume 2500 in two meals?

Im taking in 2800 though 6, your body can no way in hell be processing all the food mate!!

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Old 24 February 2003, 08:36 PM
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so you eat to much and drink to much?

dont think they do a supplement for that!
Old 24 February 2003, 08:41 PM
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i eat $hit, if i have say a pizza which is 900cals and a packet of crisps on a bad day its getting close to 2500kals maybe not as bad as that tough. thought that was the daly recomended daily amount.

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Old 24 February 2003, 08:41 PM
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Old 24 February 2003, 09:14 PM
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What im saying it, you taking on too much food per meal.

ASk telboy when he replies i think he'll back me up.

Cramming everything into 2 meals will do sweet fk all tbh.

You need to gradually take the food in.

I need to gain at least 200 calories not sure how to get anymore within the 6 meals!

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Old 24 February 2003, 10:08 PM
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i`m not over weight just want to burn off the excess fat, when i said its round my stomach area which i think is due to beer, would these supplements get rid of the fat on me. as i said i`m, only 11.5 stone which is`nt very much for a man of 5 feet 11.
i think i`m pretty fit, thai box twice a week and sprint train 2 twice a week.
when i said 2500kals its probably more than i have, prob closer to 2000.

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Old 24 February 2003, 10:30 PM
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LISTEN!!! Take it from me! Eat as much as you can! Lift the heaviest weights you can! Fill up on as many ROIDS as you can!! You can reach your goals, I'm living proof!!

BEEFCAKE!

BEEEEEEEFCAKE!!!
Old 24 February 2003, 10:31 PM
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Oh and Faster Mike - Thai boxing is for softies!
Old 24 February 2003, 10:38 PM
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and thats coming from somone who does karate . can`t beat brute force : thai rules.
as for roids cant do them in athletics bit naughty

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Old 24 February 2003, 10:43 PM
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You want to lose fat but you're living on pizza and crisps, both of which are extremely high fat foods?

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thats on a bad day, do eat a alot of pasta, don`t eat a great deal in general though, or snack on.
Old 24 February 2003, 11:05 PM
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Mike, IMO fat loss supplements are gimmicks and of very limited use, if any.
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caffeine supplementation/ephedrine, suppresses your appetite, metabolises fats .
Old 24 February 2003, 11:09 PM
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sit ups, and lots of them!
Old 24 February 2003, 11:21 PM
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CC thats what i mean, ephadrine was mentioned by a friend, though he said it was with other things too.
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Eat more protein as the body has to work harder to break them down thus burning more calories. Switch to slower burn carbs such as brown and wholemeal stuff as it breaks down slower reducing the amount of insulin produced after a meal which stores more of the calories as fat (this is why suagary foods are so fattening. Finally increase your muscle bulk as you body will automatically burn more calories even at rest.

Remember it won't work overnight but try it for a month and you will see results.

Hope this helps.
Old 24 February 2003, 11:23 PM
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Old 24 February 2003, 11:37 PM
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Fat loss supplement s are not good if they even work! Some increase the heart rate so as to increase the amount of calories you are burning! Not good for the old heart As it puts it under unwanted stress!

Try not to eat pasta etc to late in the evening as the body does not have time to burn it off so will be turned to fat!

Just my two pence worth! Been training for 3 years and it works for me plus I drink plenty of beer at the weekends!
Old 25 February 2003, 12:18 AM
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lol- why are ppl giving advice on fat burning supplements to someone who eats to much pizza, crisp and beer?
Old 25 February 2003, 10:41 AM
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Well, beer doesn't contain fat!!!

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Old 25 February 2003, 10:52 AM
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How many times do people need to be told! You don't get fat from eating fat, you get it from eating too many carbs / not enough aerobic exercise
Old 25 February 2003, 10:55 AM
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You cannot just take off fat around the waist - you have to lose fat everywhere & train the stomach harder than other areas.
Everyone has abs - Its a muscle group like any other - its just that some people have more fat covering them than others do - once thats removed the abs are visible.
Small meals through the day are key - this speeds up metabolism & burns fat. Big meals slow your metabolism down as it has to digest loads & loads - this contributes to feeling lathargic (spelling ?)
I would avoid supplements to lose weight & take on a fat reduced controlled diet with exercise.

There is a natural plant extract called Ispaghula (need to order from Holland & Barratt) which is 100% natural.
You take it before meals with water & it slows down the absorbtion of fats into your body - while allowing all the nutrients etc to be absorbed normally.
Fats then pass through the body as normal but are not absorbed as much - reducing calorie intake but not reducing nutrient intake.
Doctors actually reccomend it for calorie controlled diets or for people with stomach/digestion problems.

For upper abs do normal stomach crunches & for lower abs (often ignored) do leg raises (lie on floor, bring legs up slowly & lower slowly (either bent or straight)

Ro.
Old 25 February 2003, 11:08 AM
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If you're fat and lazy try this

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Old 25 February 2003, 11:14 AM
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You don't get fat from eating fat
Crikey, the advice on here just gets better and better.
Old 25 February 2003, 11:17 AM
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And better...

you get it from eating too many carbs
So, show me the last person to get fat from eating too many oranges, a good source of simple carbohydrates.

Why does everyone like to think they're an expert on this subject??
Old 25 February 2003, 11:22 AM
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I'm not fat, does that make me an expert?

How many times have you seen a fat runner, triathlete, cyclist,

And I'm not talking about the bloke you saw cycling to work at 1mph or some fat lardy @ss trying to run for a bus

Stefan

PS. That's not directed at you TelBoy, just that those type of sportsmen/woman eat a whole lot of carbs.

[Edited by ozzy - 2/25/2003 11:24:30 AM]
Old 25 February 2003, 11:32 AM
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Stefan, maybe i'm missing the point, but i think we're agreeing with each other. I was confused as to why John said that eating too many carbs makes you fat.

As you and i know, that's utter twaddle as a generalisation. But there are obviously people wandering round believing it to be true. Amazing!
Old 25 February 2003, 11:45 AM
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isnt it, i thought that to many carbs makes you fat, fat doesnt make you fat, protein is in milkshakes from MUSCLEMAGTASTIC and muscle turns to fat when you hit 30?

have i missed something?

T
Old 25 February 2003, 11:49 AM
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Tiggs, got it in one!! LOL


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