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For my RC car:
engine revs to approx 35,000,
primary gear ( cluth bell ) has 15 teeth.
secondary gear has 51 teeth
the above combination gives approx 50 - 55 mph using one engine. If the car has two engines what size primary gear do i need to up the top end speed to about 75 - 80 mph. there is a choice of 15,16,17,18 teeth ( primary)cluctch bells available.
Apologies for such a boring topic on a friday afternoon, but I need to order some parts.
Any calculations appreciated.
cheers,
mike.
engine revs to approx 35,000,
primary gear ( cluth bell ) has 15 teeth.
secondary gear has 51 teeth
the above combination gives approx 50 - 55 mph using one engine. If the car has two engines what size primary gear do i need to up the top end speed to about 75 - 80 mph. there is a choice of 15,16,17,18 teeth ( primary)cluctch bells available.
Apologies for such a boring topic on a friday afternoon, but I need to order some parts.
Any calculations appreciated.
cheers,
mike.
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being silly, the 51/15 is the "diff" ratio of 3.4
after some calculations can u confirm that the wheel diameter is 4.2cm?
if so i can work out the rest
after some calculations can u confirm that the wheel diameter is 4.2cm?
if so i can work out the rest
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worked out using...
35000/3600 = revs per sec. then divide by gear reduction ratio of 3.4 (i.e. 51/15) = 171.5 revs per sec.
now, 171.5 revs per sec times the wheel circumerference will give the distance travelled per sec. hence, 171.5 * Pi * Diameter.
distance per hour = [(171.5 * Pi * D) * 3600] = u said 50mph(=80467 metres per hour).
so 171.5 * 3.14 * D * 3600 = 80467
therefore D (wheel diameter) = 4.2cm.
that's how i got the number...not holding my breath though!
so, if D is correct, working backwards u can see what ratio u will need for 70mph, etc. then just get the gears that give that ratio.
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35000/3600 = revs per sec. then divide by gear reduction ratio of 3.4 (i.e. 51/15) = 171.5 revs per sec.
now, 171.5 revs per sec times the wheel circumerference will give the distance travelled per sec. hence, 171.5 * Pi * Diameter.
distance per hour = [(171.5 * Pi * D) * 3600] = u said 50mph(=80467 metres per hour).
so 171.5 * 3.14 * D * 3600 = 80467
therefore D (wheel diameter) = 4.2cm.
that's how i got the number...not holding my breath though!
so, if D is correct, working backwards u can see what ratio u will need for 70mph, etc. then just get the gears that give that ratio.
steven
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i don't know how this works with 2 engines, i.e. these calculations just show the max speed u can get as long as the engine can reach the provided revs (i.e. it has the power to overcome all the aero drag etc).
the only way u can change the top speed is to increase the revs, decrease the ratio, increase the wheel size.
the only way u can change the top speed is to increase the revs, decrease the ratio, increase the wheel size.
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does this help :
this is the layout in plan view, the tyres are about 90-100mm diameter i think, the arrows show direction of rotation. there are also front , rear and centre diffs but i havnt got a clue about ratios for these.
this is an app i found for working out speed, the only way i found to get the speed to eqaute to the known speed of 50-55 is to put a figure of 2.2 as the gearbox ratio, as below :
I tried it again with 18 teeth and got this :
does any of this make any sense?
thanks for the help by the way.
cheers,
mike.
this is the layout in plan view, the tyres are about 90-100mm diameter i think, the arrows show direction of rotation. there are also front , rear and centre diffs but i havnt got a clue about ratios for these.
this is an app i found for working out speed, the only way i found to get the speed to eqaute to the known speed of 50-55 is to put a figure of 2.2 as the gearbox ratio, as below :
I tried it again with 18 teeth and got this :
does any of this make any sense?
thanks for the help by the way.
cheers,
mike.
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oh my head hurts. need to go to the pub
was basing everything on a real car. my figure is out coz i haven't accounted for diff ratio/gearbox. i thought the 51/15 was the gearbox ratio (1 gear) as such.
that program should give u the new "51/15" to get your desired top speed as long as the engines can get to the 35000 rpm (i.e. they have the power).
i would imagine that the front/rear diff ratios would be the same and the centre diff is just for providing grip (i.e. no ratio change), i.e. 1/1 ratio. but not sure.
was basing everything on a real car. my figure is out coz i haven't accounted for diff ratio/gearbox. i thought the 51/15 was the gearbox ratio (1 gear) as such.
that program should give u the new "51/15" to get your desired top speed as long as the engines can get to the 35000 rpm (i.e. they have the power).
i would imagine that the front/rear diff ratios would be the same and the centre diff is just for providing grip (i.e. no ratio change), i.e. 1/1 ratio. but not sure.
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