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Old 13 February 2003, 11:33 AM
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Excuse me for thinking this is a nanny-state policy, but what blind bit of difference will banning tobacco advertising as of midnight tonight have on the smoking habits of the UK population?

Old 13 February 2003, 11:41 AM
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Loads and loads, unless your Bernie Eccles...
Old 13 February 2003, 11:45 AM
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I don't think it will make a blind bit of difference.

You need to stop people smoking in the first place - this means targetting kids. Taking someone who is dying from lung cancer round a few schools might make a difference. Raising the age limit to be able to buy them to 18 might make a difference. Making kids think it is uncool to smoke somehow might make a difference. Banning advertising will not make any difference.
Old 13 February 2003, 11:45 AM
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Cigarettes?
WTF are they?
Old 13 February 2003, 11:46 AM
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Have you seen the new warnings on the packets.....

Well if you havent you dont smoke.

I think its about 50% of the package now,with a block(white) background.
Old 13 February 2003, 11:51 AM
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Well I smoke rollies which I get from abroad, so no worries to me.

People should be free to choose what they want. Wonder if the UK will have tough regimes in 30 years time, like they do in the East?
Old 13 February 2003, 12:24 PM
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if you dont think ads work you might let the companies know- they waste millions of pounds on it...you'd think they check if it was a good idea first would you
Old 13 February 2003, 12:27 PM
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Tiggs, i agree intra-brands that advertising is worthwhile, but is this really going to have an effect on the overall number of people smoking now?

Won't advertising in the smoking fraternity now just be done by word of mouth?

I mean, so people really start smoking as a result of adverts?
Old 13 February 2003, 12:28 PM
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We don't have any ciggie advertising here, makes everything a lot better, not sure how, but that is what they told us Good to remove the scum from the tv etc.

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Old 13 February 2003, 12:35 PM
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They'll stop selling them soon except in back street dens......


P.s. if everyone gave up smoking and drinking tomorrow, this country would be in a right state!
Old 13 February 2003, 12:38 PM
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Tobacco advertising does work (unfortunately)

Nobody should underestimate the power of the subconscious and you would be amazed at the product loyalty that can be created through clever advertising that your rational mind doesn't even notice.

If anyone has any doubt about this you should read the relevant bit of Allen Carr's book "The Easy Way to Stop Smoking".

IMHO he's hit the nail on the head re all aspects of smoking...
Old 13 February 2003, 12:50 PM
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Nobody should underestimate the power of the subconscious
..thats not true otherwise I'd have a New Micra

Old 13 February 2003, 01:00 PM
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Brand loyalty is one thing which may be lost - erm, not sure, but people will still smoke. We see adverts for **** everywhere, usually in the mouth or hands..........
Old 13 February 2003, 01:19 PM
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I believe we should also do the same for Alcohol.
Old 13 February 2003, 02:24 PM
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Alcohol and cigarettes are two different things IMO. Anyone can drink around me and I can choose to abstain. However, if someone chooses to smoke around me, my only option, if I don't want to be fumigated, is to go elsewhere. I almost never go to pubs because of this. I believe that smokers who smoke around non-smokers and children should be charged with assault.
Old 13 February 2003, 02:58 PM
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Brand loyalty is one thing which may be lost - erm, not sure, but people will still smoke.
Clare - thats a strange one though, I for one, prefer my brand over others because of the taste, I'm sure you do too? Never quite understood ciggie advertising and the point of it..
Old 13 February 2003, 03:47 PM
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The Government's stated objective for banning these adverts is to reduce smoking by 2.5%. Maybe secretly, they would like/hope to see it drop more than that. Based on the trend over the past three decades maybe it will, with or without the ad ban IMHO.
Old 13 February 2003, 04:22 PM
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Alcohol and cigarettes are two different things IMO. Anyone can drink around me and I can choose to abstain. However, if someone chooses to smoke around me, my only option, if I don't want to be fumigated, is to go elsewhere. I almost never go to pubs because of this. I believe that smokers who smoke around non-smokers and children should be charged with assault.
Agreed Em,.....at the moment at work the smokers outnumber the non-smokers and often we have to leave the canteen because its so bad.They did create a no-smoking area but its so small that everyone smokes in the non-smoking area too.This is worse at weekends and on night shift when there are no management around to enforce it.We have complained but nothing gets done.I'm not anti smoking,but surely i have some right to not get choked by smoke while eating my lunch.
Old 13 February 2003, 04:26 PM
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Alcohol and cigarettes are two different things IMO. Anyone can drink around me and I can choose to abstain. However, if someone chooses to smoke around me, my only option, if I don't want to be fumigated, is to go elsewhere. I almost never go to pubs because of this. I believe that smokers who smoke around non-smokers and children should be charged with assault.
I do see where you are coming from - but the same could be said about drunks, and bad language/bad behaviour!
Old 13 February 2003, 04:29 PM
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Bad language and other people drinking doesnt effect my health though.
Old 13 February 2003, 04:42 PM
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it does if they go for you!
Old 13 February 2003, 05:05 PM
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TurboKitty - "charged with assault!"

Bit harsh - what they should do is make proper smoking areas in pub/restuarants - ie a different room to the non-smokers.

It would be better for both parties, especially the smokers cos you non-smokers are miserable bunch!
Old 13 February 2003, 07:06 PM
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Ya don't see too many adverts for ecstacy or heroin do you?

It doesn't seem to stop people taking them though!

Although i hate smoking, and have never smoked, i feel that it is blatant social engineering to ban cigarette advertising. What next, banning adverts for sharp knives, pointed sticks, pomegranates!!! [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

mb

Old 13 February 2003, 07:09 PM
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OMG!!!! it's been 2 mins since the last one, off to roll another one...
Old 13 February 2003, 07:16 PM
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Clare - thats a strange one though, I for one, prefer my brand over others because of the taste, I'm sure you do too? Never quite understood ciggie advertising and the point of it..
I think someone else was making the point that it would, I buy Marlboro Lights when I'm flush, anything else which is cheap when I'm not but there are some brands I steer clear of. Is that the same?
Old 13 February 2003, 08:00 PM
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I do think people have a right to go out and come home NOT stinking of ****.One reason i dont go out so much.
Old 13 February 2003, 08:11 PM
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You got it in a nut shell. I am sick of smelling of **** at the end of a night. Smoking should be like in America.......... 1/2 banned.
Lets be fair,the only reason most started is brcause they wanted to be a lad with the boys or girls... Muppets.
Old 13 February 2003, 08:17 PM
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So why do some of us have 555 on our number plates,subaru and mitsubishi might be changing their team colours in years to come ??jon
Old 13 February 2003, 10:07 PM
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LOL @ DrEvil, you know I'm not known for my liberal views!
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What is this 'cigarette' thing anyway? Welcome to tommorow.
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