what fresh madness is this??
30 January 2003, 02:08 PM
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Chancellor Gordon Brown has refused to rule out the possibility of imposing VAT on property purchases.
Coupling VAT on houses with stamp duty could mean buyers finding themselves paying £20,000 to the government for a £250,000 house.
This goverment
<shakes head in disbelief and starts looking overseas property magazines>
30 January 2003, 02:11 PM
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What a cracking idea to sting us for even more cash. And that will really help the people that are finding it dificult to even get onto the property ladder 
<shakes head, and wonders how long it is til the next general election>
<shakes head, and wonders how long it is til the next general election>
30 January 2003, 02:26 PM
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And I read today that Gordon Brown (texture like sun! Geddit ?!!
) plans to up the income tax on the lower band to 26p !
Labour Govt = Stealth tax regime and war mongering b@stards !
) plans to up the income tax on the lower band to 26p !Labour Govt = Stealth tax regime and war mongering b@stards !
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30 January 2003, 02:29 PM
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Do you want good hospitals and schools or dont you??
AND
We have to pay for the immigrants of course
It all costs money - and you have it - so Labour wants it off you!!
Where else would it come from??
Pete
From someone who has just opened his pay slip and found £2500 TAX paid this month
[Edited by pslewis - 1/30/2003 2:32:37 PM]
AND
We have to pay for the immigrants of course
It all costs money - and you have it - so Labour wants it off you!!
Where else would it come from??
Pete
From someone who has just opened his pay slip and found £2500 TAX paid this month
[Edited by pslewis - 1/30/2003 2:32:37 PM]
30 January 2003, 02:33 PM
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hahaha I knew immigrants would be mentioned.
Seems like this government just scr*ws us all for every penny we earn. They get enough revenue out of us all ffs.
And the worst thing is all our money goes on stupid enterprises and the welfare state.
Seems like this government just scr*ws us all for every penny we earn. They get enough revenue out of us all ffs.
And the worst thing is all our money goes on stupid enterprises and the welfare state.
30 January 2003, 03:13 PM
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Or how about another little ruse they are thinking about, taxing people on the increase in the value of their properties because they haven't moved and paid lots of lovely stamp duty. The idea that people have seen the values of their houses shoot up and they are quite content to sit on that, or borrow against it, is annoying to the government, they are trying to figure out a way of taxing people who don't move often enough for their liking..........
30 January 2003, 03:29 PM
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oh dear pslewis,
you don't get good schools or hospitals just by cluelessly throwing money at them - while simultaneously creating pointlessly overburdened, inertia-raddled bureaucracy.
30 January 2003, 03:36 PM
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Why should we give them even more of our money.Theyve robbed us of more taxes ever since they came to power. And just where has all this money gone?
Sooner theyre gone the better. Wouldnt surprise me if BNP did well in the next election.
Chip.
Sooner theyre gone the better. Wouldnt surprise me if BNP did well in the next election.
Chip.
30 January 2003, 04:11 PM
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They really did take the urine when they promised not to increase income tax, and then increased national insurance instead. What a stroke of brilliance [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
It has to be said that Guy Fawkes had the right idea all along
It has to be said that Guy Fawkes had the right idea all along
30 January 2003, 05:53 PM
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And I just heard on the news that Council Tax in the South East is to rise by up to 20% [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] FFS bled dry or what!! [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
30 January 2003, 06:29 PM
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They couldn't do this could they?
Let me say that I never voted for them either! Amazing that anyone could do so now. I do think that they do take the ****. What did they say "Education, Education. Education!" and look at the way they have screwed anyone that is looking to go to uni.
Not to mention "Tough on crime etc" .....
A faint memory of when they were elected that they just might be a bit of fresh air, instead we have seen them award themselves 40% pay rise and the best pensions ever. The fact is that they have ensured that the majority will be poor in retirement with the demise of final salary schemes while they rip everyone off with their invidious stealth taxes.
Rip off Britain indeed, by our own government.
Let me say that I never voted for them either! Amazing that anyone could do so now. I do think that they do take the ****. What did they say "Education, Education. Education!" and look at the way they have screwed anyone that is looking to go to uni.
Not to mention "Tough on crime etc" .....
A faint memory of when they were elected that they just might be a bit of fresh air, instead we have seen them award themselves 40% pay rise and the best pensions ever. The fact is that they have ensured that the majority will be poor in retirement with the demise of final salary schemes while they rip everyone off with their invidious stealth taxes.
Rip off Britain indeed, by our own government.
30 January 2003, 06:42 PM
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One thing is for sure, if there was an election TOMORROW, they would STILL get a landslide majority!!
Plenty of posts on here would indicate otherwise, HOWEVER, this is a predominently Tory BBS ........... the salaries are well above the £35,000 Average.
So, like it or not - they are here to stay for a generation - or until those that remember the Tory Shambles die off!!
What would you REALLY want?
1. Tories in, underinvestment, corruption rife, 2p in the £ lower taxes BUT 5 year waiting lists for Operations, I'm allright Jack mentallity, schools failing the children, Universities for the rich, foxes killed left right and centre!!??
OR
2. Labour in, adequate investment, waiting lists going down, unemployment down, lowest interest rates for 30 years, rich pay more to help the underpriveledged, tackle terrorists head-on, higher taxes to achieve the above, create a climate of paying to improve things?
Yes, we vote for 2 dont we???????????
Pete
Plenty of posts on here would indicate otherwise, HOWEVER, this is a predominently Tory BBS ........... the salaries are well above the £35,000 Average.
So, like it or not - they are here to stay for a generation - or until those that remember the Tory Shambles die off!!
What would you REALLY want?
1. Tories in, underinvestment, corruption rife, 2p in the £ lower taxes BUT 5 year waiting lists for Operations, I'm allright Jack mentallity, schools failing the children, Universities for the rich, foxes killed left right and centre!!??
OR
2. Labour in, adequate investment, waiting lists going down, unemployment down, lowest interest rates for 30 years, rich pay more to help the underpriveledged, tackle terrorists head-on, higher taxes to achieve the above, create a climate of paying to improve things?
Yes, we vote for 2 dont we???????????
Pete
30 January 2003, 07:14 PM
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VAT on moving house....i'm all for it.
Personally what i'd like to see is "super-VAT" introduced at 35% and imposed on wallpaper/curtains and carpets.
Then people(no names mentioned
)might change them not when they become last years colours,but when they wear out.Never redecorate.....save money,save the environment
...
30 January 2003, 07:19 PM
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Whats wrong with paying Tax on the profits of your house?? what better way to cool the housing market! Excellent idea and gets my FULL backing! You pay Tax when you sell shares (on the profit) should apply to houses too!!
Pete
Pete
30 January 2003, 07:37 PM
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Hold on, you *do* pay tax on profits made selling your house - 40% Unless you have lived there as your only residence for a certain number of years.
This is a *purchase* tax [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] How can people afford payments of an additional 20K on top of the asking price?? What's it for anyway? To slow the market down they claim. But I though that's what interest rates are there for
Once it's on it'll be there for good (do you think a Tory gov would remove it?) [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] interest rates can be adjusted to suit the financial circumstances at the time. Why not put them up, that'll slow things down? AND savers (like me) and pensioers would benefit [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
This is just Tax for Tax's sake, IMO [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Unless you have lived there as your only residence for a certain number of years.This is a *purchase* tax [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] How can people afford payments of an additional 20K on top of the asking price?? What's it for anyway? To slow the market down they claim. But I though that's what interest rates are there for
Once it's on it'll be there for good (do you think a Tory gov would remove it?) [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] interest rates can be adjusted to suit the financial circumstances at the time. Why not put them up, that'll slow things down? AND savers (like me) and pensioers would benefit [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
This is just Tax for Tax's sake, IMO [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
30 January 2003, 07:48 PM
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Also how do you stump up another 20 grand? I suppose it's added to your mortgage?
No wonder they were touting around the idea of 50 year mortgages recently.[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
So, if you are a graduate you have a debt of 21K plus yer VAT on house purchase and a 50 year mortgage. Basically you are in hock to the government for the entire duration of your working life
I used to wish I was young again not any more
No wonder they were touting around the idea of 50 year mortgages recently.[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
So, if you are a graduate you have a debt of 21K plus yer VAT on house purchase and a 50 year mortgage. Basically you are in hock to the government for the entire duration of your working life
I used to wish I was young again
not any more
30 January 2003, 07:56 PM
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Did someone mention pensioners??
YES!!! put interest rates up to 15% - would cool the market somewhat Tax the profits made on house sales of main residence, pay VAT on purchase, for god sake - you are making pots of money for FREE!!
Pete
YES!!! put interest rates up to 15% - would cool the market somewhat
Tax the profits made on house sales of main residence, pay VAT on purchase, for god sake - you are making pots of money for FREE!!Pete
30 January 2003, 08:06 PM
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Some how I knew all of this would happen in '97 but everyone I told said I was crazy saying they shouldn't vote new labour. If I remember correctly university tuition fees came in after only a few months and things have got steadily and more seriously worse since then.....