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Old 31 October 2002, 07:30 AM
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Well done to Kim Howell, the culture minister, for proffering the following opinion on the 2002 Turner Prize Entries:
"It's cold, mechanical conceptual bull**** ... The attempts at contextualisation are particularly pathetic but symptomatic of a lack of conviction."
Never a truer word spoken!
Old 31 October 2002, 07:42 AM
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Dont necessarily agree.A lot of modern art is pretty good,and whats the alternative,...ancient art

Have you ever been to the National Portrait Gallery.....soooooooo boring its untrue
Old 31 October 2002, 08:02 AM
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Most modern art is I am afraid an exercise in clever-cloggery by talentless, pretentious louts who are in themselves derivative of others.

They have access to materials, time and space, and that is what sets them apart from you and me, not talent.

Damien Hurst? - seeen it all before in the anatomy museum at Guy's hospital.

Tracy Emin? - seen it all before 20 minutes ago when I got out of bed.

That big thing in the Tate modern? The huge reservoir dam I saw on Exmoor last week with millions of tons of water held in silent power was more artistic and impressive in scale and it even has a use.
Old 31 October 2002, 08:53 AM
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Dont necessarily agree.A lot of modern art is pretty good,and whats the alternative,...ancient art
Erm, I like some modern art as much as the next man. I just think the Turner prize entries this year (and every other year, for that matter) are a complete load of contrived, pretentious unadulterated bollocks.
Have you ever been to the National Portrait Gallery.....soooooooo boring its untrue
Yeah, but as sebastian says, the cobblers that messrs Emin and Hirst come up with is hardly thought-provoking either, now is it?
Old 31 October 2002, 08:55 AM
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Have you ever been to the National Portrait Gallery.....soooooooo boring its untrue
Portraits not my thing, so not necessarily representative of 'old' art. There is some interesting stuff in the Tate (particularly the Turner wing) and the National. I mean, I don't really like the Gainsborough stuff and its ilk (Lord Whatsisname on a horse ) but when it's twenty feet tall you have to admire the skill involved.
Old 31 October 2002, 11:27 AM
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the bbc did a good series called Living with the Enemy not to long ago and one episode featured the following :-
two stick in the mud "traditional" artists had to to live with two young "hip" modern conceptual artists at first i thought the two traditional artist were too reactionary but at the least they were polite and made a genuine attempt to understand the new artists.

After half an hour i wanted too physically strangle the two arrogant little gits (a man and a woman)who called themselves conceptual artists they were unbelievably foul mouthed and rude to the two trad artists
They had all the tact intelligence and reasoning of harry enfields Kevin the teenager

At one point the two trad artists were shown a sculpture of two neolithic figures based on the two modern artists and you could see a glimmer of hope in their eyes, here they were being shown something crafted skilfull and quite life like.
That was until they found the arrogant little ******* had just posed for somone else who had produced the sculptures and were passing it of as their own work.

thats the point when i jumped ship and began rooting for traditional artists.

Matt

edited to say and dont forget 9 times out of 10 these arrogant ****s are being paid large grants from guess who's pocket




yes thats right you and me

[Edited by mattstant - 10/31/2002 11:30:57 AM]
Old 31 October 2002, 11:33 AM
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I left my bed exactly as i got out of it this morning.

I expect to have a knock on the door with my prize in the next 48 hours or so.


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Old 31 October 2002, 11:39 AM
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Simpsons on BBC2 last night, anyone?

Homer the conceptual artist. Says it all IMHO.

Nice to see an MP with an opinion!
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I've got loads of my own like this one, usually taken when I'm pissed This one is by Catherine Yass, called "Descent" and is part of her entry this year ROTFL



Conceptual art = my @rse

Maybe I should enter my @rse next year? You never know.... (then again )

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Actually hasn't the Arsewoman already entered this year?

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Old 31 October 2002, 08:00 PM
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I'm gona submit my new born's first ****ty nappy once its born
Old 31 October 2002, 08:53 PM
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I quite like that blurry picture

Gotta be better than another boring painting of a vase of flowers or a been there, done that a million times landscape.
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