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Old 19 September 2002, 04:44 PM
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How the **** do I get trapped air out of water pipes ????
Old 19 September 2002, 06:33 PM
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this is assuming you mean central heating
if its a pumped system isolate the offending area and shut off all other rads then give the system a good blast for an hour or two
Old 19 September 2002, 06:38 PM
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it's more when I turn the cold tap on & off get this almighty bang !!!
Old 19 September 2002, 07:57 PM
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Stop passing wind then !!!!!!
Old 19 September 2002, 08:03 PM
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i think thats because the pipes arent secured propery. When you close the tap the pressure increase causes the pipe to judder.

i stand to be corrected.
Old 19 September 2002, 08:07 PM
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Tis not air its a pressure surge (hammer) going through your pipes. When you shut the tap off (esp. when doing it quickly), the pressure wave coming up he pipe rebounds off the tap and turns to mechanical energy and shakes your pipes to bits.
Look for any pipes that move when it happens and screw them firmly to the wall.
Then get onto your water co. and get them to lower the water pressure.

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Old 19 September 2002, 08:09 PM
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NO!! DONT screw the PIPES firmly to the wall - use a BRACKET!

Ive got visions of pipes with screws through them...*shudder*
Old 19 September 2002, 08:18 PM
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butty,

it was on the tip of my tongue - SURGE.
Old 19 September 2002, 09:36 PM
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We had the same problem, just turned the main stop **** in the street down to 2/3s. Works fine.
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Ditto with the reply above..
Old 20 September 2002, 10:03 AM
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You can also sometimes get this problem if your mains stop valve (sorry couldn't say **** now could I?) is not open enough or is fitted the wrong way around.

If you are not talking about mains cold but tank fed cold you could try connecting a hose between a mains cold tap and the 'noisey' tap. The higher mains pressure will usually push any trapped air back up the pipes into the tank, be careful though as you can get very wet if the hose comes off. Turn the tank fed tap on first then the mains (carefully), run it for a few seconds then turn the mains off then the tank fed.
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Wooops I must choose my words more carefully.
Yes, screw the pipe (via a bracket) to the wall.
Hammer is becoming rarer as more water companies use pressure management to reduce their water leakage problems.
But household washing equipment with solenoids can still cause hammer with their sharp on/off action if they are not matched to the type of pressure that their supply has.

As already said, screwing down the main stop **** (inside the house or the street) will cause a high pressure headloss across the tap and reduce any occurrence of hammer. However, if you need a lot of water then you may be starved of flow.
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