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Old 09 September 2002, 07:30 PM
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I have a roll of tape that is 50 meters long and 0.5mm thick.

I need to make a new roll that has an outside dimension of 800mm and an inside dimension of 700mm.

How many meters / rolls will it take to create the bigger roll and what is the formula.
Old 09 September 2002, 07:50 PM
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Shall the forum do your homework you miserable little cheater?
Old 09 September 2002, 07:52 PM
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not exactly home work ! but yes please.

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Old 09 September 2002, 07:56 PM
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Never been one for doing other people's homework...

Work out the area of the side of the roll of tape.

((800/2)^2 * pi)-((700/2)^2 * pi)

Now equate that to the area of tape. so the above expression = X mm of tape multiplied by 0.5mm.

Be careful with the units

Hope this is right. Been a long tome since I've done any maths

[Edited by dnb - 9/9/2002 7:57:33 PM]

[Edited by dnb - 9/9/2002 11:21:07 PM]

[Edited by dnb - 9/9/2002 11:36:38 PM]
Old 09 September 2002, 07:58 PM
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What is the diameter of the old tape roll?
Old 09 September 2002, 08:02 PM
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better try ((800-700)/0,5)*((700+800)/2)*pi
Old 09 September 2002, 08:18 PM
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Erm, dnb, it's not right.

And it can hardly be longer ago than my math courses.

Now come to the board, wipe away the wrong formula and write it again correctly.


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Old 09 September 2002, 08:29 PM
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Now you have both lost me with the equations, its actually for a product I want to make at work.

The final thought is to get an accurate cost for something.

each small roll 5.5mm wide x 0.5mm thick x 50 meters costs $0.785

If I knew how to work out the Sq Inch cost I could calculate the final cost.

OD in Inches Divided by 2 X itself x 3.142 memory +

ID -------------------------"-------------- memory -

Memory recall = Total number of SQ Inches required.

So the price per Sq Inch is..................
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Well, if the roll consist of 200 layers of tape (200*0,5=100 just as OD - ID; 800-700=100) with an average diameter of 750mm (as in (700+800)/2).

The formula for the circumference is diameter*pi

Multiply this with the number of mean layers

750mm * 200 * pi = 471.238,898mm = 471,239m

Pretty big roll of tape

Its cost would be: 0,785/50 = 0,0157 $/m multiplied with 471,239 m = 7,39845 $(Dollar?!)

You owe me a roll of tape, nah make that a beer!


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Old 09 September 2002, 08:55 PM
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That's an accountant for you!
Old 09 September 2002, 09:19 PM
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Hi Clare, indeed counting the days 'till ring time

Oh, I have a notion you husband inquires about a TVR, oops.


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Old 09 September 2002, 09:42 PM
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Ralf, you are very clever, Are you saying the roll will have 200 layers knowing what the other dims are ? or is this just an example.

surely to make the bigger roll will not take 431,000 meters, maybe 431 would be more like it !

Yr helps appreciated.
Old 09 September 2002, 11:11 PM
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The roll will have 200 layers as one layer is 0,5 mm thick. 200 of them will bring the inner diameter of 700mm to 800mm (700 + (200*0,5) = 800)which are your requested dimensions.

Now you have the smallest diameter measuring 700mm * pi. The next layer would measure 700,5mm * pi, the next 701 * pi and so on another 198 times until 799,5 * pi and 800 * pi.

In this case, to save you the maths, you can assume that in the middle the circumference is 750 * pi and as the mean of all 200 layers you may replace all the 7xx,x measures with it. (Allowed here because the formula is simply 'diameter * pi' without any ^2 or so)

So you have 200 layers of tape at a medium diameter of 750mm (=0,750m).

This gives you 200* 0,75m *3,14 = 471 meters and 23 cm and 8 mm and a bit more.

Hope that helps



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Old 09 September 2002, 11:21 PM
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with copy and paste things sometimes goes astray...

Happy now?
Old 09 September 2002, 11:22 PM
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Can you stop hitting me now please?
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OK, OK



feel better now?

er, you male or female?

Old 09 September 2002, 11:50 PM
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male.

I should be more careful with cut and pasting formulas. Oh well...


Was I right in assumuing the 50m * 0.5mm was the length and thickness of the unrolled tape?

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Yes.

Would you accept a padding on the shoulder instead of above smileys?

Yes? Oh, fine.


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