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Old 09 September 2002, 11:57 AM
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Anyone else feel that we seem to be rushing headlong into a war with Iraq that is ill-advised just because George W's popularity has taken a dip and he needs to bomb some people with darker skins?
Old 09 September 2002, 12:01 PM
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Almost a year on and still no justice for those that died [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

End it, end it now [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Old 09 September 2002, 12:05 PM
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Have a look at the "petrol to rise by 65p a gallon?" thread, on the General forum.
Old 09 September 2002, 12:06 PM
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What about the people that died in Warrington and Manchester? Even if the people responsible for this were caught they'd be out again by now? Is justice ever really attained?

Shouldn't we be looking a little closer to home first?
Old 09 September 2002, 12:24 PM
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I live next door to the RAF largest stores in Europe (maybe the world for all I know) and the sudden level of activity is astonishing.
Have no doubt guys, the decision has already been made and preparations are already well underway.
Old 09 September 2002, 12:32 PM
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.. and the increase in "large" aircraft flying into a certain base around my way in the evenings and overnight is a bit of a giveaway also ...
Old 09 September 2002, 12:52 PM
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to be fair its david beckam taking on Lewis!

Saddam is more powerful then any of us.

Look at Foot and mouth spreading, how fast.

Be the same with his Virus's.

He needs to be taken out but there will always be someone ready to fill his possition

Si
Old 09 September 2002, 12:54 PM
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Old 09 September 2002, 01:00 PM
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Old 09 September 2002, 01:02 PM
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I remember watching a program on tele about 4 years ago, these American nutters had moved out into the desert and had started this apocolyptic cult saying that the world would end in 2003, they were so convinced it was funny, the interviewer said, so when I come back in 2003 and laugh at you, you will hang your head in shame, they said you wouldnt be able to coz the world would have ended. Starting to make me think they were right after all!
Old 09 September 2002, 01:03 PM
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Surely we need to do something to get rid of the leaders and terrorists rather than killing citizens who also suffer under the aforementioned groups?
Old 09 September 2002, 01:04 PM
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Did anyone see the debate on this a couple of nights ago?

"The War on Terrorism On Trial" ?
Old 09 September 2002, 01:14 PM
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i saw bits of the Trial.


Wasnt was Nostrodamus predication for around now?

the king of terror i think

Si
Old 09 September 2002, 01:14 PM
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Bravo2zero, well said.

LM WRX, I saw that...pretty heated debate in places! What did you think of it all? Bravo2zero would have given some of them a run for their money!
Old 09 September 2002, 01:30 PM
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neutralising the Iraqi threat is the only way to go in the short term... but a sustained conflict is what we should be aiming for, not a 'let's see if we can win it in 30 seconds approach'.

Long term (and I can't believe I'm saying this!) the west needs to try and get away from a natural product dependancy, be it Gas, Oil etc.

Take Oil for example, without it the Middle East would be too busy trying to keep it's premiers in Bentley's to worry about what the west was doing. If we can become independant of Middle East reserves, we take away ALL of their power...

Just all IMO of course.
Old 09 September 2002, 01:35 PM
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Agree entirely with B20SPS, also thanks, saved me a lotta typing
Old 09 September 2002, 01:37 PM
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Take off and nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
Old 09 September 2002, 01:50 PM
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MarkO, you are on the wrong thread..thats the solution to my tree problem!
Old 09 September 2002, 01:51 PM
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Agreed they can't let things carry on in the middle east the way it is...

... but, when is America going to start taking a closer look at itself for all the terrorism it has sponsored over the years.. IRA etc...??? And who is going to get them too???? Just a thought...
Old 09 September 2002, 01:56 PM
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IF it is so bad in the middle east,,, why is it that only England and the good old USA see it that way?? Who made this country the policeman for the world? Why don't we sort our own **** first and let some other country get it's soldiers killed as part of a world crusade...
Old 09 September 2002, 01:59 PM
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Agree with sorting out issues closer to home as well as this however this should not detract from international 'problems' or other threats as and when they arise.

[Edited by Paul Habgood - 9/10/2002 7:45:51 AM]
Old 09 September 2002, 02:02 PM
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Surely if the US, who hold stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction, is threatening to make a pre-emptive strike against a sovreign country (Iraq), then that country should be able to ask for UN resolution support to defend itself?

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And as Alpine and Paul have said - we (britain) could do with taking a closer look at problems closer to home, too.
Old 09 September 2002, 02:08 PM
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MarkO - eh hem.. good point.
Old 09 September 2002, 02:16 PM
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I was told last night - "We did nothing in 1938, and look what happened!" (ie WW2)

So Hitler Mk2 is going to get it one way or another. And they wont use nukes I dont reckon, for fear of the thousands that would come pouring back at them

Its better to give than recieve



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