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Old 03 August 2020, 06:32 PM
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I am in love can’t beleive this is up for sale only one of the few hatch’s I would seriously buy

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Its non standard, worth less than an original. 11 yr old car worth less than £5k. Maybe a collection item in 20 yrs time
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Originally Posted by andy97
Its non standard, worth less than an original. 11 yr old car worth less than £5k. Maybe a collection item in 20 yrs time
its my old hatch ,, comes with a fully closed deck engine , and running a realible 530bhp on normal fuel ,, not sure where you have been looking but proven forged hatch's are worth more than the originals with the chocolate 2.5 lol

not sure where your getting this 5k from mate ,, couldn't build the bare engine for that money ,, wrx hatch's in standard form go for more let alone a forged sti ,,,, a breaker would offer more than 5k as I got offered a lot more when I had it up for sale by one well known breaker , nearly double in fact

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if anyone would like any info on the car please feel free to contact me as im still in touch with the current owner and know most stuff about the car as it was me that built it lol
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Originally Posted by andy97
Its non standard, worth less than an original. 11 yr old car worth less than £5k. Maybe a collection item in 20 yrs time

So what you are saying is it’s worth less than £5k ?

my opinion is what a beast I’d have it anyday

hats off for the effort and time put in the hatch one would appreciate and not hate but we are all diffrent
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Andy sold his soul ( went electric )
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
Andy sold his soul ( went electric )
doh..... u funny guy..
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Ok maybe £5k was a little harsh, but you get my drift. It doesn't matter what upgrades its got, its the desirability to customers that keeps prices strong. They are so few now of them.

High end cars(BMW/Audi/Bentley/Porsche etc) sell for ridiculous money after a few years due to being expensive to run and insure.

Subaru have had their day in performance cars, times have changed and modifying is so tiny compared to the late nineties and early 2000s. The market is so small, I don't see the numbers of Subaru's there once was. Just look at this forum, its a carcass of interest compared to it dizzy heights. No traders offer their services anymore-in fact most have probably shutdown or moved onto other marques.

I got rid of my Impreza a long time ago, in fact I gave it David@API after a tuner in Carnforth (cant remember his name) blew it up, destroying the forged engine, tuning it.

I sued him, got paid out through his insurance. The car had sat so long, I'd lost interest in it, gave it to David for his endless patience with the matter. It had PPG gear box, clutch, upgraded brakes, roll cage, ECU, wheels tyres etc and rust less shell.


Its a bit like the mid 80's when Ford were selling their Escort and Sierra Saphire Cosworths, big interest then killed off by high insurance costs. Today a mint 'original' Cosworth are a collectors item.

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Hardly need to be mint to make good momey ...
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Originally Posted by andy97
Ok maybe £5k was a little harsh, but you get my drift. It doesn't matter what upgrades its got, its the desirability to customers that keeps prices strong. They are so few now of them.

High end cars(BMW/Audi/Bentley/Porsche etc) sell for ridiculous money after a few years due to being expensive to run and insure.

Subaru have had their day in performance cars, times have changed and modifying is so tiny compared to the late nineties and early 2000s. The market is so small, I don't see the numbers of Subaru's there once was. Just look at this forum, its a carcass of interest compared to it dizzy heights. No traders offer their services anymore-in fact most have probably shutdown or moved onto other marques.

I got rid of my Impreza a long time ago, in fact I gave it David@API after a tuner in Carnforth (cant remember his name) blew it up, destroying the forged engine, tuning it.

I sued him, got paid out through his insurance. The car had sat so long, I'd lost interest in it, gave it to David for his endless patience with the matter. It had PPG gear box, clutch, upgraded brakes, roll cage, ECU, wheels tyres etc and rust less shell.


Its a bit like the mid 80's when Ford were selling their Escort and Sierra Saphire Cosworths, big interest then killed off by high insurance costs. Today a mint 'original' Cosworth are a collectors item.

so you got rid of your subaru a long time ago ,, can I ask where your info is coming from on this ??? , I sell these cars all the time and sell them all over the world so I know the market very well and having sold this very car I can say I didn't have any problem selling it and had people waiting to buy it off me for months before I even thought about selling it

I think you need to catch up on what the market is like when buying a 2.5 model ,, any un forged 2.5 is currently considered a ticking time bomb so the only cars fetching good money are the ones that are already forged , and once forged people want to make full use of the money it costs to forge them

iv got a WR1 that I agree needs to be kept original for the best money
iv also got two classics , a sti type R and one of the first uk turbos released in the uk , both are original and worth more that way with how the market is now ,,, but its not the case with a hatchback due to the 2.5 it comes with in the uk

iv been member of the hatch forums for a long time so know what they expect from the car when looking to buy and one of the big things that put people off is a standard engine lol

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Originally Posted by domino46
so you got rid of your subaru a long time ago ,, can I ask where your info is coming from on this ??? , I sell these cars all the time and sell them all over the world so I know the market very well and having sold this very car I can say I didn't have any problem selling it and had people waiting to buy it off me for months before I even thought about selling it

I think you need to catch up on what the market is like when buying a 2.5 model ,, any un forged 2.5 is currently considered a ticking time bomb so the only cars fetching good money are the ones that are already forged , and once forged people want to make full use of the money it costs to forge them

iv got a WR1 that I agree needs to be kept original for the best money
iv also got two classics , a sti type R and one of the first uk turbos released in the uk , both are original and worth more that way with how the market is now ,,, but its not the case with a hatchback due to the 2.5 it comes with in the uk

iv been member of the hatch forums for a long time so know what they expect from the car when looking to buy and one of the big things that put people off is a standard engine lol
Im aware fully of what Subaru engines can and cant do in various setups, original closed deck sti 2.0 from Japan compared to open 2.0 european models, 2.5 open deck. Stroker 2.2 mods etc. etc

Even AndyF with his crazy 3.6 lite setup in circa 2010

Its a long time ago now

There are pockets of interest around the world, but the UK isn't one of them in any form of strength. Australia has a strong following still, well it was when I was there a couple of years ago. Plenty to be seen around.

The only ones worth keeping original are the P1, 22B and WR1 The rest with huge power turbos mods not worth much
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Originally Posted by andy97
Im aware fully of what Subaru engines can and cant do in various setups, original closed deck sti 2.0 from Japan compared to open 2.0 european models, 2.5 open deck. Stroker 2.2 mods etc. etc

Even AndyF with his crazy 3.6 lite setup in circa 2010

Its a long time ago now

There are pockets of interest around the world, but the UK isn't one of them in any form of strength. Australia has a strong following still, well it was when I was there a couple of years ago. Plenty to be seen around.

The only ones worth keeping original are the P1, 22B and WR1 The rest with huge power turbos mods not worth much

your mistaken ,, clearly no clue on what the current market is like for them and just clinging to the hope the rare ones are the only ones of value lol

your talking about stuff 10 years ago like its still current lol ,, im talking about the current market ,, im not talking about open decks vs closed decks am I ,, im talking about the well known problem with the 2.5 that comes in all the uk models from hatch up , this puts people off buying the standard one , thats a fact,, even none subaru owners know about the crap 2.5 , check up on the hatch forums and group on here as iv been a member of both for years and anyone on there will tell you to buy a forged one ( go try it)

have you sold any subarus recently??? im wondering how you have come to your conclusion on this ?? ,, you mention OZ , Iv got cars iv built out there aswell ,, like I said I sell loads of Subaru's all over Europe and as far as OZ so please enlighten me on how many you have sold recently and what specs they were in ?? iv sold many high spec cars recently without any problem and got good money for them

we are not talking about weather a standard P1 is worth more than none standard , we are talking about cars that come with the 2.5 so would be hatch up just to be clear

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The 2.5 arrived on the market circa 2008, its been known for a long time that the ring lands do fail and if pushed too hard for power/torque they blow up.

The car listed must be around 10 years old it ain't worth what the fella is asking.just because he's got a forged engine and bigger turbo. Modification don't increase value-period

They might help sell a car if done properly and in good taste.

Like I said Subaru has had its day in performance vehicles.

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I got more for my 330s, had just turned 50k miles. It was recently forged, had a Perrin induction kit but that was it engine wise. (Well an AOS and dumpvalve, new clutch)
Otherwise it was on Tein coilovers and a few cosmetic mods.
In my mind it was worth more but ultimately we all think that.
I think 15k for this one is quite cheap in comparison. You never get your money back on mods etc but at 15k the seller definitely won't be ! A "basic" forge and new Exedy clutch (as in no other upgrades like turbo or fuel pump etc) cost me £5.5k. I'd hate to think how much was spent on this car.
so if you use mine as an example, this one is cheap.
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Originally Posted by andy97
The 2.5 arrived on the market circa 2008, its been known for a long time that the ring lands do fail and if pushed too hard for power/torque they blow up.

The car listed must be around 10 years old it ain't worth what the fella is asking.just because he's got a forged engine and bigger turbo. Modification don't increase value-period

They might help sell a car if done properly and in good taste.

Like I said Subaru has had its day in performance vehicles.
the ring land have nothing to do with pushing to hard ,, clearly not looked into it ,, they fail because they are ****e , iv seen them fail with less than 2000 miles from the factory , not a thing done to them ,,, this is the reason poeple want forged builds ,, has nothing to do with power increase

I sold this car just over a year ago and didn't have any problems selling it and got a good price for it so your argument doesn't stand really does it lol,,, explain to me why I had soooo many poeple asking to buy it from me ???

granted Luke hasn't done the best advert but can't see why it won't sell ,,its already sold once but the dealer messed him around ,, saying mods dont increase value is plain horse ****,,a well modded car will be worth more than its standard counterpart until it reaches classic form which the hatchback hasn't yet ,,, this might be the case with older cars that are classed as classic but its not the case with cars like the hatchback as its not classed as old enough yet for poeple to be worried about it being original ,,, so the market is strong for the forged ones and super weak for the unforged ones as you can't give them away

still not answered me on how many of these cars you sell ?? ,, or is it just a opinion of someone who doesn't sell these cars and hasn't sold one in years and hasn't got a clue about the current market lol
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If its such a good car for that money buy it back. You're bound to make a stonking profit
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Originally Posted by andy97
If its such a good car for that money buy it back. You're bound to make a stonking profit
still avoided the question though didn't you lol

if you understood my reasons for selling that piticular car you would understand why I wouldn't be interested in buying it back ,, I won't go into details but I lost my best mate and Subaru'ing partner to cancer so the car had to go ,,, thats my only reason for selling it ,,, even the likes of Tiff Needell and Paul woodman of the lovecars series have driven the car and have said what a amazing car it is and how well it drives ,, can you say the same about anything you have ever built ????

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If you had read earlier I said I gave away my Subaru to Api years ago. I don't bother with Subaru anymore, as has most other folk too. We have all moved onto other things. Me its Tesla Model S and Model 3

Shame you didn't keep the car as homage to your pal, there again most folk buy a new dog when the old one ceases.

Still stand by my comment, it ain't worth what he is asking, not for a 10yr old vehicle. Selling it on ebay with a reduced price comment says a lot about the level of interest.

I'll keep my beady little eye on its progress-not


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We'll have to see how 10 year old Tesla stands up , wont we

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Originally Posted by andy97
If you had read earlier I said I gave away my Subaru to Api years ago. I don't bother with Subaru anymore, as has most other folk too. We have all moved onto other things. Me its Tesla Model S and Model 3

Shame you didn't keep the car as homage to your pal, there again most folk buy a new dog when the old one ceases.

Still stand by my comment, it ain't worth what he is asking, not for a 10yr old vehicle. Selling it on ebay with a reduced price comment says a lot about the level of interest.

I'll keep my beady little eye on its progress-not
so you have no clue about the Subaru market then lol,, so what you still doing here ?? why dont you just do one and find some electric forum to bug people on about your new tesla

buy a new dog ??? my best mate died of cancer you horrible **** so just how am I ment to buy a new one?? ,, as far as honoring my best friend, I dont need a bit of metal for that as I do it every day by looking after his family the cars were always just our toys
oh and I have a memorial tattoo

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so you have no clue about the Subaru market then lol,, so what you still doing here ?? why dont you just do one and find some electric forum to bug people on about your new tesla

buy a new dog ??? my best mate died of cancer you horrible **** so just how am I ment to buy a new one?? ,, as far as honoring my best friend, I dont need a bit of metal for that as I do it every day by looking after his family the cars were always just our toys
oh and I have a memorial tattoo
Andy has basically turned into an intensely boring and predictable pro-Brexit, pro-electric-car troll of the most fascist variety. Best ignored on most topics.
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Back on topic (which is itself slightly off-topic, since it's about a scoob but posted in NSR ), that looks like quite a lot of car for the money, regardless of marque.
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Originally Posted by markjmd
Back on topic (which is itself slightly off-topic, since it's about a scoob but posted in NSR ), that looks like quite a lot of car for the money, regardless of marque.
no dude it’s bout me wishing I had £15k spare
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That's a much more fitting rememberum
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i suspect what what Andy97 is highlighting is that people tend to (quite naturally) over value their own property - nothing wrong with that, we are all human and we all do it, especially if we have invested a lot of time, effort and emotion into it

ultimately in things like the used car market - the "free market" principle reigns supreme, if the seller gets 15K then great

but setting a price for anything you have to match the competing necessities of
  • desire to sell
  • need to sell
  • the amount you are actually prepared to sell for
  • how many people want it at that price
i hope he gets 15K, i suspect he may have to drop further (but what the fvck do i know, i tried to sell my Toyota Landcruiser Amazon earlier this year, clearly I over valued it!!!!! in the end I am glad i kept it)




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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
i suspect what what Andy97 is highlighting is that people tend to (quite naturally) over value their own property - nothing wrong with that, we are all human and we all do it, especially if we have invested a lot of time, effort and emotion into it

ultimately in things like the used car market - the "free market" principle reigns supreme, if the seller gets 15K then great

but setting a price for anything you have to match the competing necessities of
  • desire to sell
  • need to sell
  • the amount you are actually prepared to sell for
  • how many people want it at that price
i hope he gets 15K, i suspect he may have to drop further (but what the fvck do i know, i tried to sell my Toyota Landcruiser Amazon earlier this year, clearly I over valued it!!!!! in the end I am glad i kept it)
landcruiser amazon is it auto?
please tell me more ... how much did you put it up for and what happened?
and a pic of the beauty
personally have a thing for 4x4’s on the quite


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