Recommend me a good tablet - finally decided to ditch apple!
01 October 2017, 11:52 AM
#1
Recommend me a good tablet - finally decided to ditch apple!
As heading, I've finally had enough of my iPad after many loyal years, but enough is enough. I can't even surf basic pages now without it stalling, reloading or crashing! I've already ditched the iPhone too just to similar misery!
Looking for an alternative please.
Bought a Lenovo as they were on offer, but I'm not enhammered with it so it's gone to my son.
I'm informed that the ASUS Zenpad 3s 10 LTE are very good, has anyone any experience?
Cheers
Robert
Looking for an alternative please.
Bought a Lenovo as they were on offer, but I'm not enhammered with it so it's gone to my son.
I'm informed that the ASUS Zenpad 3s 10 LTE are very good, has anyone any experience?
Cheers
Robert
02 October 2017, 09:05 AM
#2
Scooby Senior
How old is your iPad and is it up to date? Mine's no spring chicken but runs like new, it's well accepted that you can't beat an iPad, you've already wasted money once.
02 October 2017, 03:33 PM
#4
Same for our iPads, run like dogs. However, in the tablet world, I'd say Apple still rule the roost, if was going to replace, I would probably get another iPad.
That said, my old Galaxy tab was virtually unuseable, but I read some articles on how to give it new life, and now it is the tablet I go to as it runs quickly.
It seemed much harder to do the same thing for the Apple tablets.
But still, if you have to buy new, get an iPad.
That said, my old Galaxy tab was virtually unuseable, but I read some articles on how to give it new life, and now it is the tablet I go to as it runs quickly.
It seemed much harder to do the same thing for the Apple tablets.
But still, if you have to buy new, get an iPad.
02 October 2017, 04:38 PM
#6
Thanks for the response all.
I almost pressed the "buy" button on an "ASUS Zenpad 3s 10 LTE" last night, but one particular review site put me off.
I have an iPad 2, I think it is up to date, will check when home this afternoon.
My biggest gripe in no particular order is:
a) Switching between apps reloads that app, thus takes extra time you lose any new data in that app (for example, if your writing an email but click onto another app to refer to something, and then go back to the email, more often that not the page reloads - email is now blank arghhhh
)
b) Page crashes and reloads for what appears to be no apparent reason. Newspaper or heavy data pages are the worse. Sometime the page just reloads, crashes, reloads, crashes........ until I switch it off.
c) Generally just slow, can write something and its as though the keys are working 5 seconds behind
Pisses me right off, hence why I want to throw in the towel with Apple. First my phone every two years or so, now ipads!!!
I feel better after that!
Robert.
I almost pressed the "buy" button on an "ASUS Zenpad 3s 10 LTE" last night, but one particular review site put me off.
I have an iPad 2, I think it is up to date, will check when home this afternoon.
My biggest gripe in no particular order is:
a) Switching between apps reloads that app, thus takes extra time you lose any new data in that app (for example, if your writing an email but click onto another app to refer to something, and then go back to the email, more often that not the page reloads - email is now blank arghhhh
)b) Page crashes and reloads for what appears to be no apparent reason. Newspaper or heavy data pages are the worse. Sometime the page just reloads, crashes, reloads, crashes........ until I switch it off.
c) Generally just slow, can write something and its as though the keys are working 5 seconds behind
Pisses me right off, hence why I want to throw in the towel with Apple. First my phone every two years or so, now ipads!!!
I feel better after that!Robert.
02 October 2017, 04:47 PM
#7
Ipad2 is 6+ year old tech. The web has moved on hugely from then with rich media .. The hardware simply cant keep up.
Had the same problem here with gfs galaxy tab2, worked fine for ages but recent facebook updates rendered it useless. Her iphone6 runs it fine. Its impossible for app developers to support ancient hardware.
Had the same problem here with gfs galaxy tab2, worked fine for ages but recent facebook updates rendered it useless. Her iphone6 runs it fine. Its impossible for app developers to support ancient hardware.
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02 October 2017, 07:03 PM
#8
Ah okay, so it's the modern interface of information that's made my perfectly fast and decent iPad, albeit now old tech, clunky and slow? It was never "slow", yes it's never been rapid, but now it is "slow".
Time for a change I feel.
Time for a change I feel.
03 October 2017, 12:25 AM
#9
Scooby Senior
You can still do lots of useful things on the iPad 2, mines still in use, great value for money so far, I’d get an iPad Air 2 second hand if the cost is an issue, it’s a massive upgrade, although I prefer the sound of the old one.
03 October 2017, 04:33 AM
#10
I ditched my iphone a few months back and am really upset - should have done it ages ago. New one has better everything and epic battery life. Cost £240.
I have had Apple products since around 2000/2001. Started with a Cube (superb) and have had a few since (they used to last a long time). Macbook Pro? Bombproof, but recent software upgrades have reduced it to its knees.
Now, Apple are just the same as any other brand and even the software is no better than other brands. Apple quality dipped last time Steve Jobs left, but they brought him back and he sorted it. Not going to happen now
03 October 2017, 08:58 AM
#11
Scooby Senior
People are always dumping 6 year old Apple products for brand new cheap ones and are surprised when it's better, brag here and slate Apple, then a year down the line are replacing the cheap tat.
It's funny.
It's funny.
03 October 2017, 09:17 AM
#13
Scooby Regular
Crikey my original iPad2 was unusable 2 years ago - traded it for an iPad Air2 from CEX - this is great - night & day compared to the '2'.... it was all the successive 'one way' IOS updates that saw it off - it became unusable - even typing on it was beyond painful taking seconds for letters to appear.....
03 October 2017, 11:44 AM
#14
Crikey my original iPad2 was unusable 2 years ago - traded it for an iPad Air2 from CEX - this is great - night & day compared to the '2'.... it was all the successive 'one way' IOS updates that saw it off - it became unusable - even typing on it was beyond painful taking seconds for letters to appear.....
03 October 2017, 01:19 PM
#16
So what is the conscious here? All manufactures are crippled by the ever increasing demand on the hardware, as such any device has a shelf life of circa 6 years regardless of updates?
So that said, it doesn't matter what I buy next, apple included, the device will inevitably be subject to the doom of future technology rendering it useless in years to come, so I should look to buy anything that's running an up to date operating system and meets my requirements?
Also I have a great work spec phone, good work laptop, a decent personal laptop (daughter uses it most of the time) and a crap personal iPad. Whilst I feel the laptop has its place in my life, the tablet is great for the quick grab and go browing, banking, emails etc... or at least it was!
So that said, it doesn't matter what I buy next, apple included, the device will inevitably be subject to the doom of future technology rendering it useless in years to come, so I should look to buy anything that's running an up to date operating system and meets my requirements?
Also I have a great work spec phone, good work laptop, a decent personal laptop (daughter uses it most of the time) and a crap personal iPad. Whilst I feel the laptop has its place in my life, the tablet is great for the quick grab and go browing, banking, emails etc... or at least it was!
03 October 2017, 03:10 PM
#17
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I have just replaced my ipad 2 for the same reason with the lpad Pro 10.5" and it simply is amazing and makes the ipad 2 feel like an antique. I got a deal off Very for 20% off and with a cashback site too got it for £466 which is a bargain compared to the Apple shop.
I don't know why you are complaining, a laptop/pc after 6 years is old and out of date and it's no different for tablets/phones. I accepted my ipad 2 had had it's day and I got my money's worth out of it. I expect the same from the Pro.
I don't know why you are complaining, a laptop/pc after 6 years is old and out of date and it's no different for tablets/phones. I accepted my ipad 2 had had it's day and I got my money's worth out of it. I expect the same from the Pro.
03 October 2017, 03:25 PM
#18
You are probably all correct, I'm just of the opinion that the technology of kit would remain the same as time moves forward, therefore the ability of the kit is the same now as it was when purchased 4 years ago. However it would seem that the interface of other apps has rendered the hardware redundant.
What I am getting at: If my Ipad 2 was to run like it was when it was new, I wouldn't have a complaint. So even a full restore wont fix that, as there is nothing wrong with the hardware for the generation it was meant for, its just no longer any use in today's world
edit to add: A Commodore 64 in the 80's would have taken say 10 minutes to load a game and it would play how it was deigned to be played, if you had one today it would still take 10 minutes to load and play as it would have 30 years ago. However as soon as you go online with something, its no longer fit for purpose.
What I am getting at: If my Ipad 2 was to run like it was when it was new, I wouldn't have a complaint. So even a full restore wont fix that, as there is nothing wrong with the hardware for the generation it was meant for, its just no longer any use in today's world
edit to add: A Commodore 64 in the 80's would have taken say 10 minutes to load a game and it would play how it was deigned to be played, if you had one today it would still take 10 minutes to load and play as it would have 30 years ago. However as soon as you go online with something, its no longer fit for purpose.
Last edited by Rob Day; 03 October 2017 at 03:29 PM.
03 October 2017, 03:36 PM
#19
Scooby Regular
If you were still running the same version of ios and the same apps as when you got it then it would still run the same. However each year the software is developed and released for newer hardware so runs slower on the older hardware.
The C64 would still be running the same software the day it was released so it never slowed down.
The C64 would still be running the same software the day it was released so it never slowed down.
03 October 2017, 04:03 PM
#22
Scooby Senior
You are probably all correct, I'm just of the opinion that the technology of kit would remain the same as time moves forward, therefore the ability of the kit is the same now as it was when purchased 4 years ago. However it would seem that the interface of other apps has rendered the hardware redundant.
What I am getting at: If my Ipad 2 was to run like it was when it was new, I wouldn't have a complaint. So even a full restore wont fix that, as there is nothing wrong with the hardware for the generation it was meant for, its just no longer any use in today's world
edit to add: A Commodore 64 in the 80's would have taken say 10 minutes to load a game and it would play how it was deigned to be played, if you had one today it would still take 10 minutes to load and play as it would have 30 years ago. However as soon as you go online with something, its no longer fit for purpose.
What I am getting at: If my Ipad 2 was to run like it was when it was new, I wouldn't have a complaint. So even a full restore wont fix that, as there is nothing wrong with the hardware for the generation it was meant for, its just no longer any use in today's world
edit to add: A Commodore 64 in the 80's would have taken say 10 minutes to load a game and it would play how it was deigned to be played, if you had one today it would still take 10 minutes to load and play as it would have 30 years ago. However as soon as you go online with something, its no longer fit for purpose.
I bought the top line iPad 2, it was £750 and I'm off in a few minutes to find out if I can get it going again, it's my mums only internet device. That's great value, but the initial investment is a choker.
04 October 2017, 02:14 AM
#23
My old iphone was not 6 years old, it was less than 3. It was worse than useless, as every time it was needed, it didn't work. Simply unacceptable for a business tool. Never used for social media etc. etc., so arguments about that slowing it down don't hold water.
The OP was asking for opinions on alternatives to Apple. If they come back good, what's the problem? You surely can't believe that only one company can make decent tech products??? That would not be the assertion of a rational person.
Don't get too hung up on brands or technology - life's too short.
04 October 2017, 02:27 AM
#24
Rob Day - I feel your frustration. Especially when I look back at how good Apple software used to be. Phone wise it's fairly easy. I have a Motorola for work and it does everything I need. Laptops are also fairly easy - buy cheap, use until slow, then bin.
Tablets are harder, as there are less players in the market. I would say ipad as the best of a bad bunch - BUT their recent software sucks.
It's not so much the applications (which I could understand, given the sheer numbers) but the basics like typing, switching apps, stability etc. and Safari as a web browser....really?? It's simply dreadful. Probably a large part of the problem, as it is resource hungry and hardly ever releases memory when running on a mac, so doubtless has similar issues on an ipad.
I have worked in the computer development industry for decades and software does go in cycles. Apple is poor at QA right now, so we are seeing all sorts of issues.
If history is correct, they will improve (have to), so I suspect your best choice is another ipad for now and every time a new version of s/w comes out - sit back and wait for others more eager and/or foolhardy to test it for you.
Good luck!
Tablets are harder, as there are less players in the market. I would say ipad as the best of a bad bunch - BUT their recent software sucks.
It's not so much the applications (which I could understand, given the sheer numbers) but the basics like typing, switching apps, stability etc. and Safari as a web browser....really?? It's simply dreadful. Probably a large part of the problem, as it is resource hungry and hardly ever releases memory when running on a mac, so doubtless has similar issues on an ipad.
I have worked in the computer development industry for decades and software does go in cycles. Apple is poor at QA right now, so we are seeing all sorts of issues.
If history is correct, they will improve (have to), so I suspect your best choice is another ipad for now and every time a new version of s/w comes out - sit back and wait for others more eager and/or foolhardy to test it for you.
Good luck!
04 October 2017, 08:51 AM
#25
Scooby Senior
That is not correct and there is nothing funny about it.
My old iphone was not 6 years old, it was less than 3. It was worse than useless, as every time it was needed, it didn't work. Simply unacceptable for a business tool. Never used for social media etc. etc., so arguments about that slowing it down don't hold water.
The OP was asking for opinions on alternatives to Apple. If they come back good, what's the problem? You surely can't believe that only one company can make decent tech products??? That would not be the assertion of a rational person.
Don't get too hung up on brands or technology - life's too short.
My old iphone was not 6 years old, it was less than 3. It was worse than useless, as every time it was needed, it didn't work. Simply unacceptable for a business tool. Never used for social media etc. etc., so arguments about that slowing it down don't hold water.
The OP was asking for opinions on alternatives to Apple. If they come back good, what's the problem? You surely can't believe that only one company can make decent tech products??? That would not be the assertion of a rational person.
Don't get too hung up on brands or technology - life's too short.
04 October 2017, 08:58 AM
#26
Scooby Senior
I have my old iPad 2 here with me, my Mum has trouble with passwords and had properly locked it bless her. Anyhow, had to restore the iPad then the iCloud back up, no hassle at home. Result, the iPad is slow, but only if you first do something new, for my Mum it's iPlayer, Facebook and Safari, it's perfectly usable for those three and background tasks so I'm happy.
04 October 2017, 12:55 PM
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I've gone for the Asus z500m and well happy with it
https://www.asus.com/uk/Tablets/ASUS...d-3S-10-Z500M/
https://www.asus.com/uk/Tablets/ASUS...d-3S-10-Z500M/
