Northumbriam police paid rapist for testimony
10 August 2017, 08:48 AM
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Northumbriam police paid rapist for testimony
Sorry if this has already been covered, but what are your thoughts on the morality and efficacy of this.
As reported widely in the news Northumbrian police have paid a convicted rapist £10000 for his part in supplying information to secure the conviction of a gang of 18 people involved in grooming, trafficking, sexual assault, and rape, as well as drug abuse and supply.
The police have come in for a fair bit of criticism for this, but I think it's money well spent.
Paying the convicted rapist won't change what he did in the past, but it has prevented a number of future crimes being perpetrated.
The only down side that I can see is that it may encourage unscrupulous criminals (is there any othe kind?) to try and obtain similar payments with fraudulent information.
What are your thoughts?
As reported widely in the news Northumbrian police have paid a convicted rapist £10000 for his part in supplying information to secure the conviction of a gang of 18 people involved in grooming, trafficking, sexual assault, and rape, as well as drug abuse and supply.
The police have come in for a fair bit of criticism for this, but I think it's money well spent.
Paying the convicted rapist won't change what he did in the past, but it has prevented a number of future crimes being perpetrated.
The only down side that I can see is that it may encourage unscrupulous criminals (is there any othe kind?) to try and obtain similar payments with fraudulent information.
What are your thoughts?
10 August 2017, 09:05 AM
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Sorry if this has already been covered, but what are your thoughts on the morality and efficacy of this.
As reported widely in the news Northumbrian police have paid a convicted rapist £10000 for his part in supplying information to secure the conviction of a gang of 18 people involved in grooming, trafficking, sexual assault, and rape, as well as drug abuse and supply.
The police have come in for a fair bit of criticism for this, but I think it's money well spent.
Paying the convicted rapist won't change what he did in the past, but it has prevented a number of future crimes being perpetrated.
The only down side that I can see is that it may encourage unscrupulous criminals (is there any othe kind?) to try and obtain similar payments with fraudulent information.
What are your thoughts?
As reported widely in the news Northumbrian police have paid a convicted rapist £10000 for his part in supplying information to secure the conviction of a gang of 18 people involved in grooming, trafficking, sexual assault, and rape, as well as drug abuse and supply.
The police have come in for a fair bit of criticism for this, but I think it's money well spent.
Paying the convicted rapist won't change what he did in the past, but it has prevented a number of future crimes being perpetrated.
The only down side that I can see is that it may encourage unscrupulous criminals (is there any othe kind?) to try and obtain similar payments with fraudulent information.
What are your thoughts?
If the informant(grass) had been a guy banned 10 times from driving, would we be less aggrieved by it ?
As to people taking advantage of this, I would assume there is no payment until it had been to court? I would again "assume" that once information had been given then the evidence would start to add up, proving the informants story ?
10 August 2017, 10:00 AM
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The informant,a vile creature himself,hasn't been named and doubt he will be so would be difficult for his victim to sue.
10k has hopefully got 18 of these vile scumbags off the streets and behind bars(should throw away the key!)
So imo it's a small price to pay.
10k has hopefully got 18 of these vile scumbags off the streets and behind bars(should throw away the key!)
So imo it's a small price to pay.
10 August 2017, 10:05 AM
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But I agree about losing the key. Personally I'd burn the lot of them and save the tax payer a bunch of money to pay the next informant.
10 August 2017, 10:44 AM
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From a pragmatic perspective, what would it have cost in both time and money/man hours had both the police and CPS investigated and prosecuted via more traditional means?
Legally speaking the cost of convicting 18 people is pretty high; Especially if the tax payer has to pay the legal costs for the defence as well. £556 per person to secure a solid conviction could be seen as a bargain, albeit a somewhat immoral one.
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10 August 2017, 07:03 PM
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My advice too.
From a pragmatic perspective, what would it have cost in both time and money/man hours had both the police and CPS investigated and prosecuted via more traditional means?
Legally speaking the cost of convicting 18 people is pretty high; Especially if the tax payer has to pay the legal costs for the defence as well. £556 per person to secure a solid conviction could be seen as a bargain, albeit a somewhat immoral one.
From a pragmatic perspective, what would it have cost in both time and money/man hours had both the police and CPS investigated and prosecuted via more traditional means?
Legally speaking the cost of convicting 18 people is pretty high; Especially if the tax payer has to pay the legal costs for the defence as well. £556 per person to secure a solid conviction could be seen as a bargain, albeit a somewhat immoral one.
11 August 2017, 07:47 PM
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I think the cops should have had a quiet word with the right people in MI5/MI6 as they might well have access to more "robust" interview techniques and have extracted the truth for free. Or perhaps know people outside the UK who would be happy to help.
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12 August 2017, 08:03 AM
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You mean torture to get information. I think that went out with Hitler - he didn't seem too popular in the end.
12 August 2017, 08:18 AM
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Also from what I gather they didnt give the informant a lump sum of 10k, this figure seems to be for expenses and the like over a few years as well.
12 August 2017, 09:33 AM
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