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Old 09 August 2017, 07:28 AM
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This isn't going to end well.

Two ***** getting ready for a fight, walking round the ring, staring at each other waiting to catch the other off guard.

There is no one to stop the fat one doing what he wants




But what about Trump?

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Old 09 August 2017, 08:26 AM
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Tbh NK have had it coming for a long long time and no ones done anything about it. It's the only country i think would just randomly use a nuke. Sooner he gets slapped down the better.

Unlike IS NK had a military structure that can be hit, a few bases going pop and hitting the nuke development sites and things will calm down.
Old 09 August 2017, 08:56 AM
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Unless the North Koreans to decide to go for a full scale retaliatory strike. Now that could be interesting.
Old 09 August 2017, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
Tbh NK have had it coming for a long long time and no ones done anything about it. It's the only country i think would just randomly use a nuke. Sooner he gets slapped down the better.

Unlike IS NK had a military structure that can be hit, a few bases going pop and hitting the nuke development sites and things will calm down.
If you read the history of US and North Korea, the US has screwed, bombed NK savagely and broke every treaty signed between the two countries. When you read this you understand why NK will never trust the US ever again and have a deep ingrained hatred.

The US are by far the biggest threat to world peace who have ever existed.
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Originally Posted by mrtheedge2u2
If you read the history of US and North Korea, the US has screwed, bombed NK savagely and broke every treaty signed between the two countries. When you read this you understand why NK will never trust the US ever again and have a deep ingrained hatred.

The US are by far the biggest threat to world peace who have ever existed.
This in a big way.
Old 09 August 2017, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
This in a big way.

YEP!
Old 09 August 2017, 01:01 PM
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Getting rid of a tyrant dynasty isn't going to work by bombing the place wholesale

I'm sure lil Kim realises this ( that's even if he can reach Mar-a-Lago )
Old 09 August 2017, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Getting rid of a tyrant dynasty isn't going to work by bombing the place wholesale

I'm sure lil Kim realises this ( that's even if he can reach Mar-a-Lago )
If military action happens it will be about removing NK's ability to fight and make nukes.
Old 09 August 2017, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mrtheedge2u2
If you read the history of US and North Korea, the US has screwed, bombed NK savagely and broke every treaty signed between the two countries. When you read this you understand why NK will never trust the US ever again and have a deep ingrained hatred.

The US are by far the biggest threat to world peace who have ever existed.
Yet where would we have been without them in WW2? Would we have now been a Soviet satellite without them? Possibly. Despise them you might but they've helped us out of a few holes down the years.
Old 09 August 2017, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Paben
Yet where would we have been without them in WW2? Would we have now been a Soviet satellite without them? Possibly. Despise them you might but they've helped us out of a few holes down the years.
True. However they had a giant by the name of Roosevelt as President then, they have pigmy Trump now.
Also worth stating that the US entered the war only after they were attacked by Japan, and Germany declared war on them.

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Originally Posted by Paben
Yet where would we have been without them in WW2? Would we have now been a Soviet satellite without them? Possibly. Despise them you might but they've helped us out of a few holes down the years.
They may well have helped out in the past (eventually) and we can be grateful for that, although it might be said they would have had a vested interest in preserving the freedom of Europe. But that doesn't give them the right to throw their weight about.
Maybe NK is getting a bit aggressive and it's a worrying attitude they are exhibiting, but Trump telling the world he's going to rain fire and fury on them like the world has never seen is hardly going to ease tensions is it.
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
They may well have helped out in the past (eventually) and we can be grateful for that, although it might be said they would have had a vested interest in preserving the freedom of Europe. But that doesn't give them the right to throw their weight about.
Maybe NK is getting a bit aggressive and it's a worrying attitude they are exhibiting, but Trump telling the world he's going to rain fire and fury on them like the world has never seen is hardly going to ease tensions is it.

'Getting a bit aggressive' is somewhat understating the situation. Threatened with nuclear missiles should the US say and do nothing to avoid being accused of throwing their weight around? Responding only when actually attacked might be considered a little late when US cities have been evaporated.
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Originally Posted by Paben
'Getting a bit aggressive' is somewhat understating the situation. Threatened with nuclear missiles should the US say and do nothing to avoid being accused of throwing their weight around? Responding only when actually attacked might be considered a little late when US cities have been evaporated.
Well they haven't actually hurt anyone yet, have they? They've fired some metal into the sea and beaten their military chest.
Of course NK's posturing is a worry, but who's been harmed in reality?
As has already been said "Getting rid of a tyrant dynasty isn't going to work by bombing the place wholesale". Anyone think that idea worked well in Iraq?
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
Well they haven't actually hurt anyone yet, have they? They've fired some metal into the sea and beaten their military chest.
Of course NK's posturing is a worry, but who's been harmed in reality?
As has already been said "Getting rid of a tyrant dynasty isn't going to work by bombing the place wholesale". Anyone think that idea worked well in Iraq?

North Korea now has ICBMs. They have succeeded in the development of nuclear warheads that can be transported in the ICBMs. They are threatening to deploy them against the US. But they haven't actually hurt anyone yet so no cause for concern
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Trump pushing the idea that the US is and will allways be the most powerful be the most powerful nation on earth ever ever ever isn't aggressive ?
Old 09 August 2017, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Paben
'Getting a bit aggressive' is somewhat understating the situation. Threatened with nuclear missiles should the US say and do nothing to avoid being accused of throwing their weight around? Responding only when actually attacked might be considered a little late when US cities have been evaporated.
US cities are unlikely to be evaporated (by the by incinerated/blown away I said probably more accurate), the likelihood of a Korean nuke ever reaching its target is slim to none at this point.
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Haven't they both got anything better to do then argue who has the biggest conkers ?
Old 09 August 2017, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
US cities are unlikely to be evaporated (by the by incinerated/blown away I said probably more accurate), the likelihood of a Korean nuke ever reaching its target is slim to none at this point.

Ah, US cities not evaporated, only incinerated/blown away. Well that's ok then as long as it's nothing serious.

In the event that you had the means to stop them would you really sit idly by and do nothing if NK was threatening to explode a nuclear weapon over/in your garden? It is your human right to be blown up if you so choose of course, and perhaps if you just sat quietly they would go away. But it might be advisable to keep your fingers in your ears, just in case!
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yeah because preemptive strikes against would be threats have worked out well for the world so far.
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Do they have any oil?
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Nope.
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Originally Posted by Pross
Do they have any oil?
wonder if they will fake oil so they can go in and destroy the weapons? hahaha
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The USA have carried out 1054 nuclear weapons tests over the years. They are a bit hypocritical.
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Originally Posted by neil-h
US cities are unlikely to be evaporated (by the by incinerated/blown away I said probably more accurate), the likelihood of a Korean nuke ever reaching its target is slim to none at this point.
And how do you know this?

dl
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Originally Posted by CharlySkunkWeed
The USA have carried out 1054 nuclear weapons tests over the years. They are a bit hypocritical.
but they havn't threatened to nuke anyone repeatedly.
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
but they havn't threatened to nuke anyone repeatedly.
Are you suggesting it's ok to kill people for what they say they will do?
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Am I the only one that thinks Kim Jong Un is nothing more that a puppet for a group of military leaders?
In almost every photo of the retard, there are the same high ranking military types. I believe those are the real leaders pulling his strings.
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
Are you suggesting it's ok to kill people for what they say they will do?

So at what point would a warlike action be justified? When your country has been attacked with nuclear weapons or before, following threats?
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What happened to Ronnie's star wars ?


http://www.history.com/topics/us-pre...nces-star-wars

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Originally Posted by Paben
So at what point would a warlike action be justified? When your country has been attacked with nuclear weapons or before, following threats?
Just for clarity's sake I'm not a pacifist in spite of how my posts might appear. So I have no qualms against appropriate military action.
I'm sure there is substantial surviellance of NK and their military activities, either on the ground or via airbourne technology, by all interested parties including China and Russia. I don't know this for a fact but I think it's a fair presumption given the gravity of the situation.
With that in mind, there will come a time when it is deemed that NK is actually preparing for a launch of armed weapons, not boasting or threatening. When that happens I would feel justified in initiating an armed response to contain that threat.
I appreciate the inherent risk in that strategy. But at what point do you turn from Defender of Freedom, to the Playground Bully, or just a plain old fashioned murderer?



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