Turbohot

Floods in Cumbria look quite devastating on the News.

Hope all our SNetters from Cumbria are ok and aren't facing too much hardship.

1509joe

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wrx300scooby

It's terrible to see such devastation especially at this time of year. I just wonder what questions will be asked regarding the new expensive flood defences.

ZANY

I hope they all recoup there losses and fast it's time our country to look after our own but will they? And I hope they all had insurance as it will take some strain off things

I_MNL

Hope everybody is OK and that there are no casualties

alcazar

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Flood defences? They have flood defences?

And I suppose the Tories paid for those, as far north as that, did they? Hmmmmm.

Saw on the news this morning that quite a few have had no chance of any insurance since the last lot.

Tidgy

you willing to pay extra tax for it?

hodgy0_2

yeah, potentially a lot of uninsurable properties

and no insurance = (in most circumstances) no mortgage

so almost unsellable

a couple of 1 in a hundred year events in a 4 or 5 year period, they may have to re-define the odds

t1gger

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Saw this on the news yesterday interviewing some one from the environmental agency They would not answer any questions just avoided them .terrible thing to happen ,all the money we send to other countries,yet they won't spend any money to stop this happening here

DYK

People of Cumbria do not fear,mr Cameron will be announcing he's doing everything he can.😫

alcazar

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No......let's divert some of the money wasted buying drones and extra aircraft plus ordnance to bomb ISIS/Iraq/Afghanistan/Libya to flood defences.

mickywrx

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A load of money was spunked on flood defences last time Cumbria got flooded, IIRC. Looks like it was money well spent.

johned

I wonder how much aid will be sent by other countries that britain have helped.

matty01

That is the million dollar question

matty01

...short of increasing your tax to pay for it....

Turbohot

Wishful thinking.

Nature doesn't spare anyone, and we never know when Britain could be at the receiving end.

Let's see how many of us from within us will put hand in our pocket to help the ones out who can't even claim their damages on insurance. Most of them may just keep their each hand in a pocket each (of their trousers) and watch the disastrous drama from their safe homes.

Anyway, where is our resident dentist Dr. Midlife Crisis? He's from Cumbria, isn't he? Hope he's ok.

Tidgy

efa

InvisibleMan

All helps but hard to predict getting a months worth of rain in a day

neil-h

That's not the problem, it's the fact these things are designed for a "once in X years" event. Obviously is a cost/benefit (not just financial cost) analysis that has to place and you end up with a compromise.

hodgy0_2

but the point is that if you are basing your analysis on, lets say a once in a 100 year event

and you then get 3 "once in a 100 year events" in the space of 10 years

your risk/benefit calculations may need adjusting

I am sure the Insurance statisticians are taking an interest in this

InvisibleMan

It helps in the fact it gives us advanced warning to defend and evacuate. Much more defences are needed and not just making the walls higher...

AS Performance

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whats needed is to stop building on natural flood planes and fcucking about with the water table..........
also build roads, etc. that actually have drains that work - local'ish m/way upgrade has started flooding to the point of closure where there have never been past issues???

progress, apparently..........

Turbohot

Still no sign of Midlife...

Come on, Shaun. Post and let us know that you and yours are fine along with everything of yours.

Meanwhile, Mr. Beard trendsetter seems very gelling type>

http://news.sky.com/story/1603570/co...o-flood-victim

lordharding

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The floods are just a few miles from me and I have to battle into a totally gridlocked Carlisle every day
Never mind as I stand to make a fortune as 2of my furnitre competitors are flooded out at a peak trading time

Worse then last time

2600 houses flooded in Carlisle and 6500 in Cumbria
Basically we are fcuked

I was flooded at my workplace 11 years ago with a million quid insurance payout
Was closed for 12 weeks then took very little money for 4 months then it piled in 8 months later amd took thousands more off flood victims as a furniture retailer

They spent 40 million om defences and it didn't work

We had Cameron the clown up on Monday talking to a posh immaculately dressed makeup wearing "flood victim" who was a Tory voting upper class lady
Total spin instead of meeting the real working class people
Cameron talked a good talk them left quickly befor he was lynched

Secratary of state for the environment was next with the normal spin interviews which made her out to be an idiot she said #

The defences worked #
What planet was she on everyone was flooded

The defences gave more time to react #
Yes an hour maybe people still were flooded

Not as much water got in #
Stupid idiot 2 ft of water does as much damage as 4ft

We must have more meeting #
Yes another waste of time

We will continue spending #
They have cut 116 million of the flood budget

solutions
Rivers need dredging but it's expensive
Stop building on flood plains
Higher walls
Create flood tempory lakes
The main one is sack all the enviroment agency bosses as they have failed to get the job done
and replace them with Dutch professionals who have kept Holland dry for years

We give 55 million to EU every day and get half back so we could afford better defences for the whole country

We spend 12 billion on stupid overseas policies
It's about time we protected our own country as we can't stop climate change making the weather Getting worse

Total cost estimate at 400-500 million quid for Cumbria


Midlife would of been flooded of he hadn't moved house To higher up
I haven't seen him for a couple of years

His old house in the village is under water despite spending 4 million quid
The water went round the defences in a different way

The person who designed it should be fired and tied up in the village pub which is under 12ft of water amd let the locals deal with him

Cumbrians aren't very pleased with Cameron at the moment

Turbohot

Hey, Lordharding! Didn't realise you lived that way. Good to know you and yours are ok.

Ok, this must mean that he and his must be fine as they now live on higher up land. That's a good news. He had posted on SN in last two years, as I've seen his posts here n' there.

Turbohot

I saw on the News last night that boxer Amir Khan was donating Christmas gifts and food to the flood victims. That's quite good of him, I thought. I also heard that with the water now turning into snow, there will be continued hardships to face.