UKIP correct...twice in two days.
10 March 2015, 12:13 PM
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UKIP correct...twice in two days.
Yesterday we saw the release of the figures for Romanians and Bulgarians coming here: 5.76 times what the Tories and LimpDems estimated.
Despite Clegg's anger at Nigel Farage when he mentioned that might happen in the debate.
And today, we see that there has been a call from the EC for an EU Armed force to face down Putin....once again, Clegg said it wouldn't happen and was a dangerous thing to say during the debate.
What planet is Clegg the smeg on?
Despite Clegg's anger at Nigel Farage when he mentioned that might happen in the debate.
And today, we see that there has been a call from the EC for an EU Armed force to face down Putin....once again, Clegg said it wouldn't happen and was a dangerous thing to say during the debate.
What planet is Clegg the smeg on?
10 March 2015, 01:10 PM
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The Establishment can only deny reality for so long, after a while reality just steam rollers over the pathetic attempts to maintain a fantasy. You saw it in the Communist countries, and we are seeing it now with immigration and the EU. The reality of the situation can no longer be denied, and its only those controversial figures that said the Emperor had no clothes that are vindicated
10 March 2015, 02:45 PM
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Yesterday we saw the release of the figures for Romanians and Bulgarians coming here: 5.76 times what the Tories and LimpDems estimated.
Despite Clegg's anger at Nigel Farage when he mentioned that might happen in the debate.
And today, we see that there has been a call from the EC for an EU Armed force to face down Putin....once again, Clegg said it wouldn't happen and was a dangerous thing to say during the debate.
What planet is Clegg the smeg on?
Despite Clegg's anger at Nigel Farage when he mentioned that might happen in the debate.
And today, we see that there has been a call from the EC for an EU Armed force to face down Putin....once again, Clegg said it wouldn't happen and was a dangerous thing to say during the debate.
What planet is Clegg the smeg on?
They repeatedly claimed that as many as 29 million would come. It makes being wrong by 6:1 look positively accurate
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2014/05/15/ukip-accused-of-scaremongering-after-number-of-romanians-in
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lol
10 March 2015, 03:43 PM
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Also Farage predicted in 2008 on the dangers of courting Ukraine, turns out he was right on that as well.....
Nigel Farage warned about Russia Ukraine in 2008 - YouTube
Nigel Farage warned about Russia Ukraine in 2008 - YouTube
naïve to say the least to think that Putin/Russia would allow this - and smacks of triumphalism from EU/NATO - backed by the hawkish US administration
it may have been possible when Russia was a bankrupt basket case at the turn of the century, but not now, with Russia as a resurgent super power
and I think this eastwards expansion went back on the tacit agreement re spheres of influence post breakdown of the eastern bloc
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10 March 2015, 03:59 PM
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I have to say I agree with that
naïve to say the least to think that Putin/Russia would allow this - and smacks of triumphalism from EU/NATO - backed by the hawkish US administration
it may have been possible when Russia was a bankrupt basket case at the turn of the century, but not now, with Russia as a resurgent super power
and I think this eastwards expansion went back on the tacit agreement re spheres of influence post breakdown of the eastern bloc
naïve to say the least to think that Putin/Russia would allow this - and smacks of triumphalism from EU/NATO - backed by the hawkish US administration
it may have been possible when Russia was a bankrupt basket case at the turn of the century, but not now, with Russia as a resurgent super power
and I think this eastwards expansion went back on the tacit agreement re spheres of influence post breakdown of the eastern bloc
The majority of the Ukrainian people are aspiring to western values, not Putin's values.
10 March 2015, 04:20 PM
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I agree in a perfect world - but it isn't
both the US and Russia have spheres of influence especially in their backyards
if the EU/NATO wanted to move the Ukraine away from "mother" Russia they should have been a bit cleverer about it
and not simply turn up with a can of Coke and pair of Levis - saying come with us, ooh and by the way can be put NATO missiles in your garden
Putin is not a Mug
both the US and Russia have spheres of influence especially in their backyards
if the EU/NATO wanted to move the Ukraine away from "mother" Russia they should have been a bit cleverer about it
and not simply turn up with a can of Coke and pair of Levis - saying come with us, ooh and by the way can be put NATO missiles in your garden
Putin is not a Mug
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10 March 2015, 05:22 PM
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Yup, Putin is being portrayed as the aggressor here and though he is no angel he has had his buttons pressed by the West.
And how about those claims that the Malaysian plane was downed by Russian missiles, was that ever proven or just propaganda?
And how about those claims that the Malaysian plane was downed by Russian missiles, was that ever proven or just propaganda?
10 March 2015, 06:47 PM
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Were UKIP right?
They repeatedly claimed that as many as 29 million would come. It makes being wrong by 6:1 look positively accurate
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2014/...f-romanians-in
They repeatedly claimed that as many as 29 million would come. It makes being wrong by 6:1 look positively accurate
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2014/...f-romanians-in
Ah, Martin, I thought better of you..a LITTLE better anyway.
IF you bother to check, you'll see that they said that 29million HAD THE RIGHT TO COME.
Never did they say that they would all come...it was made abundantly clear to that moron Smegg too.
10 March 2015, 07:02 PM
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How many did they say would come then?
10 March 2015, 07:06 PM
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ANYONE could have foreseen the EU expansion, together with inevitable NATO backing was liable to get this sort reaction from the russkies and putin in particular .
Plain mad imo
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10 March 2015, 07:27 PM
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They never gave a number....just pointed out that the Tories...and Lying Labour before 'em, had opened the door to ANOTHER 29 million people, should they choose to come.
The Tories it was who estimated...and were 5.76 times too low.
The Tories it was who estimated...and were 5.76 times too low.
10 March 2015, 08:16 PM
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You know a party is full of bull when it's supporters get excited about a point being right and even moreso when two being correct brings out the tea parties and orgasms.
10 March 2015, 08:56 PM
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We got off lightly then
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10 March 2015, 08:59 PM
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10 March 2015, 09:12 PM
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UKIP is the obvious choice now and it's been reflected on my notorious ranker list recently.
They've leap-frogged Labour and are now reeling the Greens in. At 427 likes UKIP have over a 100 more than any other party. The bookies are risking it at 150/1 for UKIP winning most seats.
http://www.ranker.com/list/british-g...r-/matthewgill
They've leap-frogged Labour and are now reeling the Greens in. At 427 likes UKIP have over a 100 more than any other party. The bookies are risking it at 150/1 for UKIP winning most seats.
http://www.ranker.com/list/british-g...r-/matthewgill
10 March 2015, 09:14 PM
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UKIP is the obvious choice now and it's been reflected on my notorious ranker list recently.
They've leap-frogged Labour and are now reeling the Greens in. At 427 likes UKIP have over a 100 more than any other party. The bookies are risking it at 150/1 for UKIP winning most seats.
http://www.ranker.com/list/british-g...r-/matthewgill
They've leap-frogged Labour and are now reeling the Greens in. At 427 likes UKIP have over a 100 more than any other party. The bookies are risking it at 150/1 for UKIP winning most seats.
http://www.ranker.com/list/british-g...r-/matthewgill
'Most seats' lol; right now they'd snap your hand off if you offered them 5
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10 March 2015, 09:30 PM
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Although I doubt they will get into power but they will more than likely rock the establishment.
10 March 2015, 09:35 PM
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Indeed people are talking about them no doubt about that. But they are polling at around 12%, which means virtually no seats.
10 March 2015, 10:34 PM
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10 March 2015, 11:58 PM
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Farage said we were OPENING THE DOORS to 29 million - IN FACT HERE'S A VIDEO OF HIM SAYING IT. Here is the proof
He said he thought about 50000 would come in one year or "several hundred thousand in 5 years which may be conservative". In fact here's a video of him SAYING IT (starts at 1.56)
But don't bother replying because a) I've blocked you and b) anything you say is worthless
He said he thought about 50000 would come in one year or "several hundred thousand in 5 years which may be conservative". In fact here's a video of him SAYING IT (starts at 1.56)
But don't bother replying because a) I've blocked you and b) anything you say is worthless
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