Taiwan Plane Crash
04 February 2015, 10:27 AM
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Taiwan Plane Crash
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/...ash/ar-AA8XE0J
I had to watch this three times. Really surreal the first time. Almost doesn't look real........I blame films for that, given I've not seen any real crashes of planes like this.
I had to watch this three times. Really surreal the first time. Almost doesn't look real........I blame films for that, given I've not seen any real crashes of planes like this.
04 February 2015, 11:31 AM
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Horrendous footage when you think what the passengers must have been going through. It was plummeting to the ground and amazing anyone even survived let alone walked away from it unscathed.
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04 February 2015, 03:57 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATR_72#ATR_72.E2.80.93600
Only handful of incidents , id start praying now.
Only handful of incidents , id start praying now.
04 February 2015, 04:16 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATR_72#ATR_72.E2.80.93600
Only handful of incidents , id start praying now.
Only handful of incidents , id start praying now.
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04 February 2015, 05:03 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATR_72#ATR_72.E2.80.93600
Only handful of incidents , id start praying now.
Only handful of incidents , id start praying now.
So glad I'm not likely to fly on one of these.Tonydw, best of luck mate
04 February 2015, 05:07 PM
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ask if its running Rolls-Royce engines Tony , otherwise head back down the steps
Theres other ways of raising that deposit
Theres other ways of raising that deposit
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06 February 2015, 02:05 AM
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Actually it was an ATR-42 I was flying in, so the short version of the ATR-72. We fly in these a lot. The flight yesterday was ok, but the flight on Monday was scary as we skirted around thunderstorms and skimmed the tops on these massive clouds. Worst turbulence I ever experienced in years of flying in planes.
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06 February 2015, 12:13 PM
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Actually it was an ATR-42 I was flying in, so the short version of the ATR-72. We fly in these a lot. The flight yesterday was ok, but the flight on Monday was scary as we skirted around thunderstorms and skimmed the tops on these massive clouds. Worst turbulence I ever experienced in years of flying in planes.
Glad you arrived back safely.
06 February 2015, 01:34 PM
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For the those who are interested
On Feb 6th 2015 Taiwan's ASC reported that the investigation so far determined from flight data and cockpit voice recorders: the aircraft received takeoff clearance at 10:51Z, in the initial climb the aircraft was handed off to departure at 10:52:33Z. At 10:52:38Z at about 1200 feet MSL, 37 seconds after becoming airborne, a master warning activated related to the failure of the right hand engine, at 10:52:43Z the left hand engine was throttled back and at 10:53:00Z the crew began to discuss engine #1 had stalled. At 10:53:06Z the right hand engine (engine #2) auto-feathered. At 10:53:12Z a first stall warning occured and ceased at 10:53:18Z. At 10:53:19Z the crew discussed that engine #1 had already feathered, the fuel supply had already been cut to the engine and decided to attempt a restart of engine #1. Two seconds later another stall warning activated. At 10:53:34Z the crew radioed "Mayday! Mayday! Engine flame out!", multiple attempts to restart the engines followed to no avail. At 10:54:34Z a second master warning activated, 0.4 seconds later both recorders stopped recording.
On Feb 6th 2015 Taiwan's ASC reported that the investigation so far determined from flight data and cockpit voice recorders: the aircraft received takeoff clearance at 10:51Z, in the initial climb the aircraft was handed off to departure at 10:52:33Z. At 10:52:38Z at about 1200 feet MSL, 37 seconds after becoming airborne, a master warning activated related to the failure of the right hand engine, at 10:52:43Z the left hand engine was throttled back and at 10:53:00Z the crew began to discuss engine #1 had stalled. At 10:53:06Z the right hand engine (engine #2) auto-feathered. At 10:53:12Z a first stall warning occured and ceased at 10:53:18Z. At 10:53:19Z the crew discussed that engine #1 had already feathered, the fuel supply had already been cut to the engine and decided to attempt a restart of engine #1. Two seconds later another stall warning activated. At 10:53:34Z the crew radioed "Mayday! Mayday! Engine flame out!", multiple attempts to restart the engines followed to no avail. At 10:54:34Z a second master warning activated, 0.4 seconds later both recorders stopped recording.
06 February 2015, 01:43 PM
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And a graphical representation of the flight data recorder.
To my untrained eye, could possibly be another Kegworth ,East Midlands accident where the wrong engine was shut down
To my untrained eye, could possibly be another Kegworth ,East Midlands accident where the wrong engine was shut down
06 February 2015, 01:52 PM
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The ATR-72 is certified to fly on one, but shutting the good one down is not best practice.
My other interest in this accident is when watching the videos the lack of aviation fuel.
Considering it had just taken off the wing tanks should have been full of the stuuf, but nithing spilled when the wing ripped off on the bridge, and no fuel slick can bee seen in the river...
I hope they fuelled it for the flight and it didn't run out
My other interest in this accident is when watching the videos the lack of aviation fuel.
Considering it had just taken off the wing tanks should have been full of the stuuf, but nithing spilled when the wing ripped off on the bridge, and no fuel slick can bee seen in the river...
I hope they fuelled it for the flight and it didn't run out
06 February 2015, 02:26 PM
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Later the day Feb 6th 2015 the ASC also released an English version of the initial release detailing further that when the first master warning activated associated with the right hand engine the crew "called it out", then the left hand engine thrust lever was progressively retarded to flight idle. At 10:53:24Z the condition lever was set to fuel shut off position resulting in the shut down of the left hand engine. Following several call outs to restart the left hand engine the parameters suggest the left hand engine was restarted at 10:54:20Z, however, at 10:54:34Z another master warning sounded, the CVR recorded unidentified sounds and both recorders stopped
06 February 2015, 03:20 PM
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The ATR-72 is certified to fly on one, but shutting the good one down is not best practice.
My other interest in this accident is when watching the videos the lack of aviation fuel.
Considering it had just taken off the wing tanks should have been full of the stuuf, but nithing spilled when the wing ripped off on the bridge, and no fuel slick can bee seen in the river...
I hope they fuelled it for the flight and it didn't run out
My other interest in this accident is when watching the videos the lack of aviation fuel.
Considering it had just taken off the wing tanks should have been full of the stuuf, but nithing spilled when the wing ripped off on the bridge, and no fuel slick can bee seen in the river...
I hope they fuelled it for the flight and it didn't run out
Exactly, if you 4 or even 1, there wouldn't be any confusion
06 February 2015, 04:40 PM
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Jeez.scary
06 February 2015, 07:05 PM
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Complete loss of thrust would sort that out for sure. The temptation to stretch any glide would have been hard to resist. Once it dropped the wing that's the end of that.
I heard the usual one on the news about "The hero pilot avoiding the blocks of flats" Damned right he'd want to avoid those!
I heard the usual one on the news about "The hero pilot avoiding the blocks of flats" Damned right he'd want to avoid those!
