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Old 24 January 2015, 07:13 PM
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Is this not a bit of a 'islamic state' own goal ?

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Is this not a bit of a 'islamic state' own own ?
I don't know, but what do you mean by own own? Do they own it twice?
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whoops , iv only had couple pints as well
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whoops , iv only had couple pints as well

Oh, I see.
Old 24 January 2015, 07:31 PM
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Seppuku?
Old 29 January 2015, 08:28 AM
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They want a female suicide bomber in exchange , ?

So she can blow another 100 people.
Old 29 January 2015, 08:32 AM
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how can a suicide bomber blow up another 100 people
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
how can a suicide bomber blow up another 100 people
Nobody said she was any good at the job
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Yes, bit of a failure
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
how can a suicide bomber blow up another 100 people
Old 29 January 2015, 10:18 AM
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Maybe in view of her previous success she is the ideal candidate to be returned.
Old 29 January 2015, 10:30 AM
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I just can't imagine the logic that's gone through her head to pursue this career path
Old 29 January 2015, 11:00 AM
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you don't need logic, when you "believe"

simple "belief" is enough
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They should swap with the worlds worst kamikaze pilot who has been on 17 missions.
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
you don't need logic, when you "believe"

simple "belief" is enough
That doesn't explain secular or political or moral martyrdom. Those acts can't be attributed to simple belief. Socrates certainly believed in his thoughts and ideas and chose death over escape, but it wasn't an illogical choice. I think we can draw a distinction between different 'beliefs'.
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
That doesn't explain secular or political or moral martyrdom. Those acts can't be attributed to simple belief. Socrates certainly believed in his thoughts and ideas and chose death over escape, but it wasn't an illogical choice. I think we can draw a distinction between different 'beliefs'.
If not simple belief then what is the motivation in your view?
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So she's happy also to be bought and sold as some kind of shekel
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If not simple belief then what is the motivation in your view?
For what? Martyrdom or Islamic Martyrdom? Both deserve deeper investigation if we're to understand them. History is peppered with noble martyrs.
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
That doesn't explain secular or political or moral martyrdom.'.
But I was not attempting to explain "secular or political or moral martyrdom"

I am afraid you are answering a question I did not pose
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
But I was not attempting to explain "secular or political or moral martyrdom"

I am afraid you are answering a question I did not pose
Fair enough.
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Originally Posted by dpb
So she's happy also to be bought and sold as some kind of shekel
Is she an ex-leper?

Old 29 January 2015, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
So she's happy also to be bought and sold as some kind of shekel
Oye, mr. own own aka aaji bhaaji! It's hara-kiri, not hari kari.
Old 29 January 2015, 10:08 PM
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Yeh, as thought, they don't give fig about women
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