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Old 17 December 2014, 04:32 PM
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Brand being his usual self promoting **** in his latest publicity stunt.

Good on you 'Jo'
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At what point did you become so bitter Jon?
It's so very obvious.
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He should have stood there with a placard saying 'jump you ****ers' .
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Originally Posted by Maz
He should have stood there with a placard saying 'jump you ****ers' .
Why?
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Why?
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Jeez not another banks are great, Brand is a **** thread from the usual suspect!
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Well if you're going to tar all employees at RBS, you can go tell all Muslims to go and jump too for the recent atrocities.
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Originally Posted by jonc
Well if you're going to tar all employees at RBS, you can go tell all Muslims to go and jump too for the recent atrocities.
**** me that's desperate.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Jeez not another banks are great, Brand is a **** thread from the usual suspect!
Makes a welcome change to all the usual hateful profanity filled comments on Cameron/Football/Tory/Londoners/UK/people in general and any forum members with a differing opinion that you ever seem to post.
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Originally Posted by jonc
Makes a welcome change to all the usual hateful profanity filled comments on Cameron/Football/Tory/Londoners/UK/people in general and any forum members with a differing opinion that you ever seem to post.
In the interests of balance you forgot Labour
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Originally Posted by Maz
**** me that's desperate.
To paraphrase a recent post, "play the ball, not the man". You have no argument with your response.
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Originally Posted by jonc
Well if you're going to tar all employees at RBS, you can go tell all Muslims to go and jump too for the recent atrocities.
There was a culture of deceit, immorality and skulduggery within RBS. People lost homes, businesses and their life savings. Some were on the brink of suicide, this is while the executives were being paid huge salaries and bonuses.
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Originally Posted by jonc
To paraphrase a recent post, "play the ball, not the man". You have no argument with your response.
Nice red herring.
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Originally Posted by Maz
There was a culture of deceit, immorality and skulduggery within RBS. People lost homes, businesses and their life savings. Some were on the brink of suicide, this is while the executives were being paid huge salaries and bonuses.
You're wasting your time Maz, it's just not relevant to some of those unaffected by such things! As long as they are alright.... well you know the rest
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If Brand wants to become the peoples poet maybe he should donate all his earnings to the people that lost out during the bank bailouts instead of preaching from his mansion.
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Originally Posted by Maz
There was a culture of deceit, immorality and skulduggery within RBS. People lost homes, businesses and their life savings. Some were on the brink of suicide, this is while the executives were being paid huge salaries and bonuses.
So if we take your logic of guilt by association and tar everyone working at RBS or even any one working in the banking sector to go "jump", well then, you're no better than those who use the same logic to tar all Muslims as violent, raping, murdering, suicide bombing, backward thinking maniacs.

I make no secret that I work in the banking industry and know there are countless others who also work in the finance sector in an admin, supportive, operational and advisory non trading capacity and therefore, in the eyes of many, guilty by association. However, I can safely say that I was not deceitful, immoral or engaged in skulduggery costing people their homes, businesses and savings etc, but the "righteous" many are still quite happy to condemn people like myself to go "jump", nice!

Russell Brand might very well agree with you on your point, that all "bankers" should go jump from the highest building, and perhaps the guilty few should, but at least he can go to the right building where the traders/"casino bankers" work rather than harangue the other people working at RBS about things they had no involvement in. But he is too wrapped up in his own self worth to let the facts get in the way a good publicity stunt, which most likely in any event will also go someway to increasing his fortune.
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Originally Posted by jonc
So if we take your logic of guilt by association and tar everyone working at RBS or even any one working in the banking sector to go "jump", well then, you're no better than those who use the same logic to tar all Muslims as violent, raping, murdering, suicide bombing, backward thinking maniacs.

I make no secret that I work in the banking industry and know there are countless others who also work in the finance sector in an admin, supportive, operational and advisory non trading capacity and therefore, in the eyes of many, guilty by association. However, I can safely say that I was not deceitful, immoral or engaged in skulduggery costing people their homes, businesses and savings etc, but the "righteous" many are still quite happy to condemn people like myself to go "jump", nice!

Russell Brand might very well agree with you on your point, that all "bankers" should go jump from the highest building, and perhaps the guilty few should, but at least he can go to the right building where the traders/"casino bankers" work rather than harangue the other people working at RBS about things they had no involvement in. But he is too wrapped up in his own self worth to let the facts get in the way a good publicity stunt, which most likely in any event will also go someway to increasing his fortune.
Where specifically have I said 'all bankers'? Nice try at putting words in my mouth. My comments were aimed specifically at RBS. A vile organisation that personifies all that is wrong with banking sector. I quote 'an emblem of the hubris that led to the credit crunch'
If you're one of the ethical and moral bankers who distances himself from the actions of those who disgrace your profession, good for you. Although you need to be more vocal and we need to see your condemnation of your less than honorable colleagues.

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Where specifically have I said 'all bankers'? Nice try at putting words in my mouth. My comments were aimed specifically at RBS. A vile organisation that personifies all that is wrong with banking sector. I quote 'an emblem of the hubris that led to the credit crunch'
If you're one of the ethical and moral bankers who distances himself from the actions of those who disgrace your profession, good for you. Although you need to be more vocal and we need to see your condemnation of your less than honorable colleagues.
Okay, granted you didn't actually say "all" bankers and no I am not trying to put words in your mouth. I can only try and interpret from what little of what you posted then, and my interpretation is that, for a lack of any distinction, anyone in RBS can go jump. And now, to support this, I'm also guessing you mean the whole banking sector as represented by RBS when you say "A vile organisation that personifies all that is wrong with banking sector." With lack of any clarification, it still sounds like everyone in RBS and everyone in the banking sector.

With regards to distancing myself, I don't feel I should have justify my role within the sector based on the actions of a number of "rogue" traders. Likewise I don't expect people to justify their views and opinions of the "vile" banking sector, but chose not to complain especially during the good years when it benefited everyone until the proverbial hit the fan. The banking sector is what it is, you all love it when times are good, with easy access to mortgages and loans, 0% credit and good returns of investments and you all hate it when you don't.

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https://www.facebook.com/RussellBran...52580039838177

A good reply to joes letter. I can't paste it as I'm on my phone.
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Originally Posted by jonc
Okay, granted you didn't actually say "all" bankers and no I am not trying to put words in your mouth. I can only try and interpret from what little of what you posted then, and my interpretation is that, for a lack of any distinction, anyone in RBS can go jump. And now, to support this, I'm also guessing you mean the whole banking sector as represented by RBS when you say "A vile organisation that personifies all that is wrong with banking sector." With lack of any clarification, it still sounds like everyone in RBS and everyone in the banking sector.

With regards to distancing myself, I don't feel I should have justify my role within the sector based on the actions of a number of "rogue" traders. Likewise I don't expect people to justify their views and opinions of the "vile" banking sector, but chose not to complain especially during the good years when it benefited everyone until the proverbial hit the fan. The banking sector is what it is, you all love it when times are good, with easy access to mortgages and loans, 0% credit and good returns of investments and you all hate it when you don't.
I'm sensible when it comes to money and it used to pėss me off to see most spending much more than they can. I didn't know that there was going to be a banking crisis but i certainly knew people were being reckless and i hold the general public part responsible for the banking crisis.

The bankers may have baited the hook but it was stupid greedy bāstārds that spent it and now EVERYONE has had to pay the price whether you were being responsible or not.

The thing that now annoys me is people are wanting and waiting for it to go back to how it used to be. You see/hear it all the time, people saying that they aren't "feeling the recovery yet". That tells me they haven't learnt their lesson and want it to be as it was.

Plus what about all those who borowed money when they knew they couldn't afford it and have now gone bankrupt or have had their debt reduced, where's my free stuff? It's not just the bankers that need a **** kicking.

PS I'm no fan of bankers but see a real lack of balance.

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Originally Posted by Kwik
https://www.facebook.com/RussellBran...52580039838177

A good reply to joes letter. I can't paste it as I'm on my phone.
from Brand

I was there with filmmaker Michael Winterbottom making a documentary about how the economic crises caused by the banking industry (RBS were found guilty of rigging Libor and the foreign exchange) has led to an economic attack on the most vulnerable people in society.*
So he was there making money
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Good for him!
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Katy Perry - luckiest woman alive after getting rid if the cocksmith!
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Originally Posted by Carnut
I'm sensible when it comes to money and it used to pėss me off to see most spending much more than they can. I didn't know that there was going to be a banking crisis but i certainly knew people were being reckless and i hold the general public part responsible for the banking crisis.

The bankers may have baited the hook but it was stupid greedy bāstārds that spent it and now EVERYONE has had to pay the price whether you were being responsible or not.

The thing that now annoys me is people are wanting and waiting for it to go back to how it used to be. You see/hear it all the time, people saying that they aren't "feeling the recovery yet". That tells me they haven't learnt their lesson and want it to be as it was.

Plus what about all those who borowed money when they knew they couldn't afford it and have now gone bankrupt or have had their debt reduced, where's my free stuff? It's not just the bankers that need a **** kicking.

PS I'm no fan of bankers but see a real lack of balance.

In a similar vain, I wonder if students spent less on the **** they wwould get better degrees and have less debt?


They have already had 12 years of free education then bleat about incurring two years of fee's for ""ck sake.
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FairPlay to brand, the man talks sense and is using him celebrity status to be heard.
The likes of us nobody's wouldn't even be blinked at.
If you fancy a good read try brands new book revolution.
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
They have already had 12 years of free education then bleat about incurring two years of fee's for ""ck sake.
School children are not customers; society SAYS they must go to school to be disciplined/educated.
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FairPlay to brand, the man talks sense and is using him celebrity status to be heard. The likes of us nobody's wouldn't even be blinked at. If you fancy a good read try brands new book revolution.
I couldn't stand him when he was on MTV. Then someone bought me 'my books wook' and I couldn't put it down. It made me see him in a different light, though I can understand those that don't like him.
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Originally Posted by jonc
Okay, granted you didn't actually say "all" bankers and no I am not trying to put words in your mouth. I can only try and interpret from what little of what you posted then, and my interpretation is that, for a lack of any distinction, anyone in RBS can go jump. And now, to support this, I'm also guessing you mean the whole banking sector as represented by RBS when you say "A vile organisation that personifies all that is wrong with banking sector." With lack of any clarification, it still sounds like everyone in RBS and everyone in the banking sector.

With regards to distancing myself, I don't feel I should have justify my role within the sector based on the actions of a number of "rogue" traders. Likewise I don't expect people to justify their views and opinions of the "vile" banking sector, but chose not to complain especially during the good years when it benefited everyone until the proverbial hit the fan. The banking sector is what it is, you all love it when times are good, with easy access to mortgages and loans, 0% credit and good returns of investments and you all hate it when you don't.
You're still using my specifically aimed at RBS comments to encompass all bankers. Let me say it again my comments are aimed at the ne'er do wells and ne'er do wells only. If the hat fits wear it if it doesn't then don't. I understand you may have a complex of guilty by association but if you've been righteous and noble unlike some bankers then those comments aren't aimed at you.
With regard to banks per se, I'm indifferent. No mortgage, no loan and no credit card. Don't have one, don't need one simple as. An economy built on debt is a house of cards and will fall catastrophically as has been witnessed. So no we don't all love the banks 'when it's good'.
It's hard to have sympathy for bankers that lose their jobs when they're picked up in limos, as was the case when Lehmans went **** up.
Bear in mind it was the taxpayer that footed the bill for the actions of your rogue colleagues. Thus you can understand when certain banks continue to flout morality and procedure, we the public will be understandably miffed.
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Originally Posted by Carnut
I'm sensible when it comes to money and it used to pėss me off to see most spending much more than they can. I didn't know that there was going to be a banking crisis but i certainly knew people were being reckless and i hold the general public part responsible for the banking crisis.

The bankers may have baited the hook but it was stupid greedy bāstārds that spent it and now EVERYONE has had to pay the price whether you were being responsible or not.

The thing that now annoys me is people are wanting and waiting for it to go back to how it used to be. You see/hear it all the time, people saying that they aren't "feeling the recovery yet". That tells me they haven't learnt their lesson and want it to be as it was.

Plus what about all those who borowed money when they knew they couldn't afford it and have now gone bankrupt or have had their debt reduced, where's my free stuff? It's not just the bankers that need a **** kicking.

PS I'm no fan of bankers but see a real lack of balance.
When you do a quick search on SN threads pre-2007, you'll find people quite happy to advise others on self-cert mortgages and being inventive with their income, others mortgaging more that 4 or 5 times their income, complaining about credit limits on 0% credit cards, shorting Northern Rock shares, getting burned buying bank shares hoping to make a quick profit, being part of the run on the now "nationalised" banks pulling their guarenteed savings out, trying to build up a property portfolio they could ill afford etc. This was by no means unique to SN, this was reflected by what the rest of the Joe Public were doing up and down the country, for some, whose greed match those of bankers they now blame for the crisis. Of course no body would admit this, no body blames the individual private investors hoping to make a quick buck, or the spivs and speculators in private equity firms or hedge funds shorting the banks. I'm not saying the banks are blameless, but everyone, from multi-nationals right down to the individual were complicit in the cause of the financial crash. Everyone needs a scapegoat, as customers of banks, better to blame the banks rather than themselves for the financial choices they made because they can't continue the live the lifestyle they used to enjoy and ill afford. They're likely to have bought into Gordon Brown's no more bust speech.


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