Why should we police France?
05 November 2014, 10:54 AM
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Why should we police France?
Calais migrant crisis: UK police 'should help'
Why should the UK police get involved? The French need to get their finger out and deal with the issue though I suspect it suits them not to try too hard.
Why should the UK police get involved? The French need to get their finger out and deal with the issue though I suspect it suits them not to try too hard.
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05 November 2014, 05:03 PM
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I don't see how poor, persecuted, displaced people find the money to travel half way around the world by passing several safe haven countries on the way to claim asylum in the UK, this is a problem that the EU and UN should be paying to solve.
These people need to be stopped at source and funding put into place to help them in their own countries or neighbouring countries, it will only get worse if all those that have money and get up and go / intelligence come to the UK so draining their own countries of money and man power then burdening our society and resources.
Round em up and send them back to some holding camp like guantanamo and publicise it in the problem countries, once word gets out they will stop coming.
These people need to be stopped at source and funding put into place to help them in their own countries or neighbouring countries, it will only get worse if all those that have money and get up and go / intelligence come to the UK so draining their own countries of money and man power then burdening our society and resources.
Round em up and send them back to some holding camp like guantanamo and publicise it in the problem countries, once word gets out they will stop coming.
05 November 2014, 05:10 PM
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I don't see how poor, persecuted, displaced people find the money to travel half way around the world by passing several safe haven countries on the way to claim asylum in the UK, this is a problem that the EU and UN should be paying to solve.
These people need to be stopped at source and funding put into place to help them in their own countries or neighbouring countries, it will only get worse if all those that have money and get up and go / intelligence come to the UK so draining their own countries of money and man power then burdening our society and resources.
Round em up and send them back to some holding camp like guantanamo and publicise it in the problem countries, once word gets out they will stop coming.
These people need to be stopped at source and funding put into place to help them in their own countries or neighbouring countries, it will only get worse if all those that have money and get up and go / intelligence come to the UK so draining their own countries of money and man power then burdening our society and resources.
Round em up and send them back to some holding camp like guantanamo and publicise it in the problem countries, once word gets out they will stop coming.
05 November 2014, 05:46 PM
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I don't see how poor, persecuted, displaced people find the money to travel half way around the world by passing several safe haven countries on the way to claim asylum in the UK, this is a problem that the EU and UN should be paying to solve.
These people need to be stopped at source and funding put into place to help them in their own countries or neighbouring countries, it will only get worse if all those that have money and get up and go / intelligence come to the UK so draining their own countries of money and man power then burdening our society and resources.
Round em up and send them back to some holding camp like guantanamo and publicise it in the problem countries, once word gets out they will stop coming.
These people need to be stopped at source and funding put into place to help them in their own countries or neighbouring countries, it will only get worse if all those that have money and get up and go / intelligence come to the UK so draining their own countries of money and man power then burdening our society and resources.
Round em up and send them back to some holding camp like guantanamo and publicise it in the problem countries, once word gets out they will stop coming.
05 November 2014, 06:14 PM
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Most of them are young men in their 20's/30's; unwanted people (probably) with no families tieing them to the homelands, they are opportunists seeking a better life, they see what we have and think "I'll have my slice". I can't blame them but my life would be better without so many of the coming here.
05 November 2014, 06:34 PM
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Some people have lives most of us could barely imagine and they sometimes ask us for help. I think we should help.
05 November 2014, 06:45 PM
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Follow the process in place for doing so? Which I don't think includes coming over illegally. The same is true for those here illegally. There is a process in place, follow it. Oh, you won't qualify under certain criteria, tough, you cannot come in. I'm a little funny about this kind of thing as I have followed the process to gain entry to Canada, so when people try and side-step the processes in place, it annoys me.
05 November 2014, 06:47 PM
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I been stuck in them queues going into the port,truck drivers have been asking for a while now for something to be done.Hundreds of immigrants walking around like in the video clip everyday,and is no where to go.
One of our drivers got attacked by six of them and caused £4000.00 damage to the truck.
And if you get caught with illiegals driver is find £2000.00 soon will be rising £3000.00 and what you meant to do when is plague of them at the port everday trying to climb on.
Only thing is in most cases if have done your security checks TIR cord completed security form maybe not be slapped with a fine just a six hour wait while you get interviewed etc.
Alot of us international drivers have started filming going into the port and posting in you tube,because we all sick of it
One of our drivers got attacked by six of them and caused £4000.00 damage to the truck.
And if you get caught with illiegals driver is find £2000.00 soon will be rising £3000.00 and what you meant to do when is plague of them at the port everday trying to climb on.
Only thing is in most cases if have done your security checks TIR cord completed security form maybe not be slapped with a fine just a six hour wait while you get interviewed etc.
Alot of us international drivers have started filming going into the port and posting in you tube,because we all sick of it
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05 November 2014, 06:50 PM
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At the screening interview the authorities will decide if another country, not the UK, may be responsible for considering your asylum application. For example, this may be because you travelled through another country where the UKBA thinks you could have applied for asylum.
From here:
http://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/***...12_English.pdf
I think this may relate to the Dublin II regulation: http://europa.eu/legislation_summari.../l33153_en.htm
Now I don't see it specifically stating you need to register in the first country you come to, however, to get to the UK by any other method than a direct route, you likely will have illegally entered the border of another country, and as such, that may well be where the claim needs to be made.
At the screening interview the authorities will decide if another country, not the UK, may be responsible for considering your asylum application. For example, this may be because you travelled through another country where the UKBA thinks you could have applied for asylum.
From here:
http://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/***...12_English.pdf
I think this may relate to the Dublin II regulation: http://europa.eu/legislation_summari.../l33153_en.htm
Now I don't see it specifically stating you need to register in the first country you come to, however, to get to the UK by any other method than a direct route, you likely will have illegally entered the border of another country, and as such, that may well be where the claim needs to be made.
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05 November 2014, 07:10 PM
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Follow the process in place for doing so? Which I don't think includes coming over illegally. The same is true for those here illegally. There is a process in place, follow it. Oh, you won't qualify under certain criteria, tough, you cannot come in. I'm a little funny about this kind of thing as I have followed the process to gain entry to Canada, so when people try and side-step the processes in place, it annoys me.
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05 November 2014, 07:12 PM
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At the screening interview the authorities will decide if another country, not the UK, may be responsible for considering your asylum application. For example, this may be because you travelled through another country where the UKBA thinks you could have applied for asylum.
From here:
http://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/***...12_English.pdf
I think this may relate to the Dublin II regulation: http://europa.eu/legislation_summari.../l33153_en.htm
Now I don't see it specifically stating you need to register in the first country you come to, however, to get to the UK by any other method than a direct route, you likely will have illegally entered the border of another country, and as such, that may well be where the claim needs to be made.
At the screening interview the authorities will decide if another country, not the UK, may be responsible for considering your asylum application. For example, this may be because you travelled through another country where the UKBA thinks you could have applied for asylum.
From here:
http://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/***...12_English.pdf
I think this may relate to the Dublin II regulation: http://europa.eu/legislation_summari.../l33153_en.htm
Now I don't see it specifically stating you need to register in the first country you come to, however, to get to the UK by any other method than a direct route, you likely will have illegally entered the border of another country, and as such, that may well be where the claim needs to be made.
05 November 2014, 07:44 PM
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There are two main reasons they are camped in Calais, trying to get here.
1) They speak English, or at least are more likely to than French, German, Spanish, Italian etc....
2) In most, if not all, other EU countries you have to have worked for a period of time to qualify for benefits. For example, in France it is 6 months. Oh and the free healthcare.
The mayor of Calais was over here last week, talking to MPs, explaining that if we did not have such an easy and lucrative benefits culture they would not be trying to get here, instead of elsewhere, and that as such we were to blame for the situation, and should contribute to dealing with the problem.
1) They speak English, or at least are more likely to than French, German, Spanish, Italian etc....
2) In most, if not all, other EU countries you have to have worked for a period of time to qualify for benefits. For example, in France it is 6 months. Oh and the free healthcare.
The mayor of Calais was over here last week, talking to MPs, explaining that if we did not have such an easy and lucrative benefits culture they would not be trying to get here, instead of elsewhere, and that as such we were to blame for the situation, and should contribute to dealing with the problem.
05 November 2014, 08:04 PM
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There are two main reasons they are camped in Calais, trying to get here.
1) They speak English, or at least are more likely to than French, German, Spanish, Italian etc....
2) In most, if not all, other EU countries you have to have worked for a period of time to qualify for benefits. For example, in France it is 6 months. Oh and the free healthcare.
The mayor of Calais was over here last week, talking to MPs, explaining that if we did not have such an easy and lucrative benefits culture they would not be trying to get here, instead of elsewhere, and that as such we were to blame for the situation, and should contribute to dealing with the problem.
1) They speak English, or at least are more likely to than French, German, Spanish, Italian etc....
2) In most, if not all, other EU countries you have to have worked for a period of time to qualify for benefits. For example, in France it is 6 months. Oh and the free healthcare.
The mayor of Calais was over here last week, talking to MPs, explaining that if we did not have such an easy and lucrative benefits culture they would not be trying to get here, instead of elsewhere, and that as such we were to blame for the situation, and should contribute to dealing with the problem.
And he's partly right..what we really need is a set of politicians with gonads.
05 November 2014, 08:39 PM
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What about them?
We don't want / need them, so don't let them in.
End of.
Instead of sending the Army to fight Ebola in Africa how about sending them to Calais for some target practice?
I reckon the 'asylum seekers' would soon get the message.
We don't want / need them, so don't let them in.
End of.
Instead of sending the Army to fight Ebola in Africa how about sending them to Calais for some target practice?
I reckon the 'asylum seekers' would soon get the message.
05 November 2014, 08:41 PM
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With views like yours, I'd say 'we don't want / need you'
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