Best place to buy a HID kit from?
01 December 2011, 03:30 PM
#4
I would go for 6000k bulb as there the nicest colour there not the tacky blue that all the chavs run and they give off a nice white light which is more usable.
Also fitting these without projector headlights will make your beam scatter and blind oncoming traffic and will make your headlights look pants.
Also fitting these without projector headlights will make your beam scatter and blind oncoming traffic and will make your headlights look pants.
01 December 2011, 03:30 PM
#5
I assume you've done the usual searches about just how good these things are?
There are loads of threads on here about decent dip/cr@p main beam, poor focus etc.
You can't polish a turd: Scoob lights are crap. Brighter bulbs, HID kits, no matter what, yes, you'll likley get more light of the road, but more scatter too.
Best bet is to fit projectors into classic crystal lights........ have a look on the archive forum, top thread.
There are loads of threads on here about decent dip/cr@p main beam, poor focus etc.
You can't polish a turd: Scoob lights are crap. Brighter bulbs, HID kits, no matter what, yes, you'll likley get more light of the road, but more scatter too.
Best bet is to fit projectors into classic crystal lights........ have a look on the archive forum, top thread.
01 December 2011, 08:08 PM
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www.theretrofitsource.com.
They are in the USA, but will do them for RHD cars too.
The guy there is an absolute mine of info and very helpful.
DO be careful, if ordering, to spec RHD or they will be for the USA market and quite wrong for ours.
If you want any help with the instal, let me know.
They are in the USA, but will do them for RHD cars too.
The guy there is an absolute mine of info and very helpful.
DO be careful, if ordering, to spec RHD or they will be for the USA market and quite wrong for ours.
If you want any help with the instal, let me know.
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02 December 2011, 07:56 PM
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Buy a set of crystal lights, then buy a set of projectors, ballasts etc from the USA here: www.theretrofitsource.com, then DIY or pay me.
03 December 2011, 10:48 AM
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No mate, it doesn't.
We've had the new regs posted several times on here, and everyone was clear, the wording said that if fitted, those items must work.
Here you go:
[B]Vehicles equiped with HID or LED dipped beam headlamps MAY be fitted with headlamp washers and a suspesnsion or headlamp self levelling system.
Where such systems are fitted they must work; however it is accepted that it may not be possible to readily determine the functioning of self levelling systems. In such cases the benefit of the doubt must be given.
Method of inspection -
Where HID or LED dipped beam headlamps are fitted, switch on the headlamps and check the operation of any headlamp levelling and cleaning devices.
Reason for rejection
A headlamp levelling or cleaning device inoperative or otherwise obviously defective.[/B]
We've had the new regs posted several times on here, and everyone was clear, the wording said that if fitted, those items must work.
Here you go:
[B]Vehicles equiped with HID or LED dipped beam headlamps MAY be fitted with headlamp washers and a suspesnsion or headlamp self levelling system.
Where such systems are fitted they must work; however it is accepted that it may not be possible to readily determine the functioning of self levelling systems. In such cases the benefit of the doubt must be given.
Method of inspection -
Where HID or LED dipped beam headlamps are fitted, switch on the headlamps and check the operation of any headlamp levelling and cleaning devices.
Reason for rejection
A headlamp levelling or cleaning device inoperative or otherwise obviously defective.[/B]
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03 December 2011, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by MOT Inspection Manual - 2012
Vehicles equipped with High Intensity Discharge (HID) or LED dipped beam headlamps may be fitted with headlamp washers and a suspension or headlamp self levelling system.
Where such systems are fitted, they must work; however, it is accepted that it may not be possible to readily determine the functioning of self levelling systems. In such cases, the benefit of the doubt must be given.
Headlamp washers may work in conjunction with the windscreen washers (when the dipped beam headlamps are switched on) or by a separate switch.
HID lamps may be identified by:
taking a few seconds to reach full intensity
having a bluish tinge to the light
having an igniter module/inverter behind the headlamp
having ‘DCR’ marked on the headlamp lens.
HID headlamps use high voltage and extra care should be taken when inspecting these items.
Where such systems are fitted, they must work; however, it is accepted that it may not be possible to readily determine the functioning of self levelling systems. In such cases, the benefit of the doubt must be given.
Headlamp washers may work in conjunction with the windscreen washers (when the dipped beam headlamps are switched on) or by a separate switch.
HID lamps may be identified by:
taking a few seconds to reach full intensity
having a bluish tinge to the light
having an igniter module/inverter behind the headlamp
having ‘DCR’ marked on the headlamp lens.
HID headlamps use high voltage and extra care should be taken when inspecting these items.
03 December 2011, 05:13 PM
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I have been put off of HID's until now, but the wording above is very clear.
You do not need leveling or washer systems, but if you have them they must work.
Abit like if you have a rear wiper it must work, if you have a spare wheel it must be legal etc...
Credit card at the ready, I'm getting some now.
dipster
You do not need leveling or washer systems, but if you have them they must work.
Abit like if you have a rear wiper it must work, if you have a spare wheel it must be legal etc...
Credit card at the ready, I'm getting some now.
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03 December 2011, 06:30 PM
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The presence and operation of these headlamp cleaning and levelling devices has been added to the test. Therefore, if a mandatory headlamp levelling or cleaning device is missing, inoperative or otherwise obviously defective, the vehicle will fail.
This raises the question of whether these checks apply to vehicles fitted with after-market HID lighting kits. These kits convert conventional halogen headlamps to HID Xenon and they are widely sold and fitted to vehicles used on the road. The Department for Transport considers that after-market systems should be required to meet the same safety standards as that applied in respect of these lamps at vehicle Type Approval. Therefore, in order to pass the MOT test, vehicles fitted with after-market HID systems would also need to be fitted with headlamp cleaning and self-levelling systems. Some high specification estate cars are fitted with a selflevelling suspension system and this would be considered as adequate for the purpose.
It is also worthy of note that a few high performance vehicles fitted with HID headlamps that have barely any luggage space and stiff suspension do not require a self-levelling system
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repositor...3-lighting.pdf
This raises the question of whether these checks apply to vehicles fitted with after-market HID lighting kits. These kits convert conventional halogen headlamps to HID Xenon and they are widely sold and fitted to vehicles used on the road. The Department for Transport considers that after-market systems should be required to meet the same safety standards as that applied in respect of these lamps at vehicle Type Approval. Therefore, in order to pass the MOT test, vehicles fitted with after-market HID systems would also need to be fitted with headlamp cleaning and self-levelling systems. Some high specification estate cars are fitted with a selflevelling suspension system and this would be considered as adequate for the purpose.
It is also worthy of note that a few high performance vehicles fitted with HID headlamps that have barely any luggage space and stiff suspension do not require a self-levelling system
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repositor...3-lighting.pdf
03 December 2011, 06:37 PM
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The presence and operation of these headlamp cleaning and levelling devices has been added to the test. Therefore, if a mandatory headlamp levelling or cleaning device is missing, inoperative or otherwise obviously defective, the vehicle will fail.
This raises the question of whether these checks apply to vehicles fitted with after-market HID lighting kits. These kits convert conventional halogen headlamps to HID Xenon and they are widely sold and fitted to vehicles used on the road. The Department for Transport considers that after-market systems should be required to meet the same safety standards as that applied in respect of these lamps at vehicle Type Approval. Therefore, in order to pass the MOT test, vehicles fitted with after-market HID systems would also need to be fitted with headlamp cleaning and self-levelling systems. Some high specification estate cars are fitted with a selflevelling suspension system and this would be considered as adequate for the purpose.
It is also worthy of note that a few high performance vehicles fitted with HID headlamps that have barely any luggage space and stiff suspension do not require a self-levelling system
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repositor...3-lighting.pdf
This raises the question of whether these checks apply to vehicles fitted with after-market HID lighting kits. These kits convert conventional halogen headlamps to HID Xenon and they are widely sold and fitted to vehicles used on the road. The Department for Transport considers that after-market systems should be required to meet the same safety standards as that applied in respect of these lamps at vehicle Type Approval. Therefore, in order to pass the MOT test, vehicles fitted with after-market HID systems would also need to be fitted with headlamp cleaning and self-levelling systems. Some high specification estate cars are fitted with a selflevelling suspension system and this would be considered as adequate for the purpose.
It is also worthy of note that a few high performance vehicles fitted with HID headlamps that have barely any luggage space and stiff suspension do not require a self-levelling system
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repositor...3-lighting.pdf
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repositor...n%20Manual.pdf (page 1.7)
03 December 2011, 06:47 PM
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As above.
The DoT got it's knickers in a twist and issued it's ADVICE.
Then, in came European law and their advice was shelved.
The new manual makes it clear that ONLY if such items as self-levelling and cleaning are fitted, should they be tested.
Mine has cleaning and DRIVER levelling, electrically, so who knows?
The DoT got it's knickers in a twist and issued it's ADVICE.
Then, in came European law and their advice was shelved.
The new manual makes it clear that ONLY if such items as self-levelling and cleaning are fitted, should they be tested.
Mine has cleaning and DRIVER levelling, electrically, so who knows?