a good headlight bulb for classic
20 December 2009, 07:44 PM
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a good headlight bulb for classic
hi guys just wondering has anyone got a recomendation on a good headlight bulb. i know the headlight scatter is poor an i just had to remove hid conversion as 1 side is faulty an kept going out so removed. tried halfords stuff an just poor on the road. anybody got a recomendation. cheers lads
21 December 2009, 06:44 PM
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forget HIDs they are dangerous and not suited to the classic impreza due to the reflector design i would recommend Osram nightbreakers.They have a good spread of light and are an improvement on standard 
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21 December 2009, 06:55 PM
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yea bob they were good an bright on car till 1 side went faulty an off. went on youtube an seems to happen to alot of kits.
just to confirm these ones arent yours lol
21 December 2009, 07:07 PM
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are your kits E marked? unlikely as Subaru headlights arent designed for HIDs the aftermarket kits suffer very badly with light scatter and blind oncoming motorists hence the dangerous remark.Bottom line is you can't just go and chuck a set of aftermarket HID bulbs and ballasts into a car who's headlight units have the completely wrong reflector for and deem it safe.I get blinded all the time on the roads by people who have retro fitted HIDs
anyway this topic has been done to death
back on topic,I am not sure if you can get the Osrams in Halfords and places like that but its worth a look
anyway this topic has been done to death
back on topic,I am not sure if you can get the Osrams in Halfords and places like that but its worth a look
21 December 2009, 07:09 PM
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i bought some from there other day an are crap really. 12 each to. just dont wanna spend extra money on somethin that wont make difference. i no the bulb pattern aint to good so could be wasting money when its this.
21 December 2009, 07:14 PM
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are your kits E marked? unlikely as Subaru headlights arent designed for HIDs the aftermarket kits suffer very badly with light scatter and blind oncoming motorists hence the dangerous remark.Bottom line is you can't just go and chuck a set of aftermarket HID bulbs and ballasts into a car who's headlight units have the completely wrong reflector for and deem it safe.I get blinded all the time on the roads by people who have retro fitted HIDs
anyway this topic has been done to death
back on topic,I am not sure if you can get the Osrams in Halfords and places like that but its worth a look
anyway this topic has been done to death
back on topic,I am not sure if you can get the Osrams in Halfords and places like that but its worth a look
Our kits fitted correctly don't dazzle oncoming drivers, I know as I've had them on my own classic for quite some time and there are a few local scoobs also running our SuperHIDs who I see regularly on the road.
I'm not saying that other kits don't, but our SuperHIDs fitted correctly don't.
There is more to it than whether a kit is E marked or not, but as you say, has been done to death.
Customer comments speak volumes: https://www.scoobynet.com/showpost.p...77&postcount=3
21 December 2009, 08:12 PM
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are your kits E marked? unlikely as Subaru headlights arent designed for HIDs the aftermarket kits suffer very badly with light scatter and blind oncoming motorists hence the dangerous remark.Bottom line is you can't just go and chuck a set of aftermarket HID bulbs and ballasts into a car who's headlight units have the completely wrong reflector for and deem it safe.I get blinded all the time on the roads by people who have retro fitted HIDs
anyway this topic has been done to death
back on topic,I am not sure if you can get the Osrams in Halfords and places like that but its worth a look
anyway this topic has been done to death
back on topic,I am not sure if you can get the Osrams in Halfords and places like that but its worth a look
i had hids on mine an always got flashed but ive noticed that the near side light pointed up, leftways but then when i put normal lights back on it pointed same way. may have to adjust it if anybody know how to
21 December 2009, 08:16 PM
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are your kits E marked? unlikely as Subaru headlights arent designed for HIDs the aftermarket kits suffer very badly with light scatter and blind oncoming motorists hence the dangerous remark.Bottom line is you can't just go and chuck a set of aftermarket HID bulbs and ballasts into a car who's headlight units have the completely wrong reflector for and deem it safe.I get blinded all the time on the roads by people who have retro fitted HIDs
anyway this topic has been done to death
back on topic,I am not sure if you can get the Osrams in Halfords and places like that but its worth a look
anyway this topic has been done to death
back on topic,I am not sure if you can get the Osrams in Halfords and places like that but its worth a look
21 December 2009, 10:17 PM
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I am very impressed with the Philips Rally H4 12v 100/90 and I think these are better than the General Electric GE Plus 60% which were the best bulbs I had previously.
The Philips are available from PowerBulbs - Car Bulbs, Headlight Bulbs, Xenon Bulbs from Philips and Osram, including Philips Xtreme Power and Osram NightBreaker globes. . Off road rally use only. The one thing that makes them so good is the focus and that is exactly what makes HIDs on Classics so poor on full beam. Scatter and lack of distance vision which is exactly what you need on full beam.
The Philips are available from PowerBulbs - Car Bulbs, Headlight Bulbs, Xenon Bulbs from Philips and Osram, including Philips Xtreme Power and Osram NightBreaker globes. . Off road rally use only. The one thing that makes them so good is the focus and that is exactly what makes HIDs on Classics so poor on full beam. Scatter and lack of distance vision which is exactly what you need on full beam.
21 December 2009, 10:42 PM
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cheers mate if u have tried them i will go for them. i take it the higher the wattage the better. it was a choice between these an the osram nightbreaker as they are 55w i think
22 December 2009, 08:33 AM
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In H4 they are 100/90 ie. 100w main beam and 90w dipped. In H7 they are 80w.
It is not a matter of going for the highest wattage for several reasons. Firstly there is a limit to the amount of current the OE wiring can handle and more wattage means more currrent, means thicker wire than fitted on the OE car. There does not appear to be any problem whatsoever with the bulbs above.
Secondly far more important than wattage is focus. I have tried 150 and 130w bulbs that gave nice bright light on a car with heavier wire and relays but the performance was not as good as that afforded by 60/55w which had good focus.
I am very impressed with the Philips Rally 100/90 which are a step up from the General Electric H4 plus 60% that I had previously settled on after lots of trials.
Thanks for Alcazar for putting me on to these.
It is not a matter of going for the highest wattage for several reasons. Firstly there is a limit to the amount of current the OE wiring can handle and more wattage means more currrent, means thicker wire than fitted on the OE car. There does not appear to be any problem whatsoever with the bulbs above.
Secondly far more important than wattage is focus. I have tried 150 and 130w bulbs that gave nice bright light on a car with heavier wire and relays but the performance was not as good as that afforded by 60/55w which had good focus.
I am very impressed with the Philips Rally 100/90 which are a step up from the General Electric H4 plus 60% that I had previously settled on after lots of trials.
Thanks for Alcazar for putting me on to these.
22 December 2009, 01:41 PM
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PS. For Classic you need H4.
The lack of focus on the 150 and 130 watt bulbs referred to above is exactly the same problem that makes HIDs unsuitable for long range vision when they are fitted aftermarket to headlights that are not originally designed and manufactured for HID application.
The lack of focus on the 150 and 130 watt bulbs referred to above is exactly the same problem that makes HIDs unsuitable for long range vision when they are fitted aftermarket to headlights that are not originally designed and manufactured for HID application.
04 January 2010, 10:02 PM
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I've just put Halfords Extreme Brilliance bulbs into my 2005 WRX and although not 90% brighter, they are at least 50% brighter for the same wattage. Given that they are buy one get one free at present, it seems decent value. But if you're set on buying somewhere else, then fine.
08 January 2010, 01:18 AM
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Are the bulb holders and lenses ok with the heat of 100W bulbs provided the wiring is upgraded to relays fed direct from the battery? In a pre facelift classic headlights.
My Philips Vision Plus bulbs both failed on dipped beam on the same day last week. Fortunately I had spares on board, which highlighted to me just how pants standard spec bulbs are. I stopped into Halfords and got their Extreme Brilliance "90% brighter" H4s. I think they're a bit brighter than the Philips Vision Plus but the dipped beam light pool isnt uniform as there's a distracting bright patch close to the front of the car.
Anyone tried both Philips Vision Plus and Philips Extreme?
My Philips Vision Plus bulbs both failed on dipped beam on the same day last week. Fortunately I had spares on board, which highlighted to me just how pants standard spec bulbs are. I stopped into Halfords and got their Extreme Brilliance "90% brighter" H4s. I think they're a bit brighter than the Philips Vision Plus but the dipped beam light pool isnt uniform as there's a distracting bright patch close to the front of the car.
Anyone tried both Philips Vision Plus and Philips Extreme?
08 January 2010, 04:44 PM
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i bought a hid kit (not from this site) a few month ago an the near side light flickers then goes off. this is why i took the kit off an went standard but in future want to re fit. im just wondering if this is a common problem.
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I would stay clear of bulbs that are higher wattage than the standards. Just pulled a set of 100watt bulbs from a friends evo5 and had to replace the H4 connectors as they had melted. I tryed quite a few bulbs in my classic headlights before i went to projectors and found the best to be PIAA. They were not cheap around £70 a pair but did make a noticable differance.
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I've just put Halfords Extreme Brilliance bulbs into my 2005 WRX and although not 90% brighter, they are at least 50% brighter for the same wattage. Given that they are buy one get one free at present, it seems decent value. But if you're set on buying somewhere else, then fine.
The blue tips on the bulbs are a bit of a gimmick, that's my only gripe really.