Best bulbs for classic morrettes
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Would I see a benefit fitting a pair of these? I drove back from Manchester over the tops last week and I didn't realise just how bad the classic headlights are. Are there any issue with dazzle? I read your comments in another thread re HID conversions - so that’s not an option, but I would like to do something. Are there any other alternatives?
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Mick
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I tried brighter bulbs but they did not last long. went with the hids from the groupbuy and they are much better
don't pay too much attention to some people on here.
don't pay too much attention to some people on here.
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The problem with the classic lights is that the reflector/lens unit design is poor. It doesn't focus the light properly so brighter bulbs just put MORE light everywhere.
Having said that, SOME of it goes where it should, so yes, you'll see an improvement.
The lads on here extolling the value of HID aftermarket kits are right, in a way. You WILL get more light where it should be, on dip, but you will also get a poorly focused mainbeam, and you WILL get more scatter.
Ask yourself this: HOW can a different "bulb" NOT made as accurately as a halogen, possibly cure the problems inherent in the classic headlights?
You're right: it can't.
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Sure, don't pay any attention to years of lighting experience.
The problem with the classic lights is that the reflector/lens unit design is poor. It doesn't focus the light properly so brighter bulbs just put MORE light everywhere.
Having said that, SOME of it goes where it should, so yes, you'll see an improvement.
The lads on here extolling the value of HID aftermarket kits are right, in a way. You WILL get more light where it should be, on dip, but you will also get a poorly focused mainbeam, and you WILL get more scatter.
Ask yourself this: HOW can a different "bulb" NOT made as accurately as a halogen, possibly cure the problems inherent in the classic headlights?
You're right: it can't.
Alcazar
The problem with the classic lights is that the reflector/lens unit design is poor. It doesn't focus the light properly so brighter bulbs just put MORE light everywhere.
Having said that, SOME of it goes where it should, so yes, you'll see an improvement.
The lads on here extolling the value of HID aftermarket kits are right, in a way. You WILL get more light where it should be, on dip, but you will also get a poorly focused mainbeam, and you WILL get more scatter.
Ask yourself this: HOW can a different "bulb" NOT made as accurately as a halogen, possibly cure the problems inherent in the classic headlights?
You're right: it can't.
Alcazar
I fitted some cheapish blue/white H4 bulbs last year. When I took it for its MOT he failed them...said light was going everywhere. But, that’s why I take all my vehicles there, they are work tools and need to be right.
So if I did the HID upgrade I would have to take it elsewhere for MOT and it would be my luck anyway to get pulled by the plod...sorry sir that’s a £million fine and 40 points...do not pass go, go straight to jail.
I have been scouring tinternet for crystal lenses but they seem to be 97-00. Anybody know of any legal upgrade replacements that are an improvement for a 95 classic?
Mick
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Thanks Alcazar.
I fitted some cheapish blue/white H4 bulbs last year. When I took it for its MOT he failed them...said light was going everywhere. But, that’s why I take all my vehicles there, they are work tools and need to be right.
So if I did the HID upgrade I would have to take it elsewhere for MOT and it would be my luck anyway to get pulled by the plod...sorry sir that’s a £million fine and 40 points...do not pass go, go straight to jail.
I have been scouring tinternet for crystal lenses but they seem to be 97-00. Anybody know of any legal upgrade replacements that are an improvement for a 95 classic?
Mick
I fitted some cheapish blue/white H4 bulbs last year. When I took it for its MOT he failed them...said light was going everywhere. But, that’s why I take all my vehicles there, they are work tools and need to be right.
So if I did the HID upgrade I would have to take it elsewhere for MOT and it would be my luck anyway to get pulled by the plod...sorry sir that’s a £million fine and 40 points...do not pass go, go straight to jail.
I have been scouring tinternet for crystal lenses but they seem to be 97-00. Anybody know of any legal upgrade replacements that are an improvement for a 95 classic?
Mick
might be worth starting a post actualy asking people who have done the hids conversion rather than those that aint - as most would have already tried brighter bulbs at some point. how many have gone from halogen to hids and stayed with it and how many have gone from hids back to halogens
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BUT: the brighter the bulb, the more scatter. It's simple maths.
might be worth starting a post actualy asking people who have done the hids conversion rather than those that aint - as most would have already tried brighter bulbs at some point. how many have gone from halogen to hids and stayed with it and how many have gone from hids back to halogens
And don't confuse the reason that people don't go back. I've already agreed that HID WILL give better lighting.
But it's STILL Illegal to sell, fit or buy aftermarket kits, and they still WILL cause more scatter than a halogen bulb, simply because there's more light TO scatter
Alcazar
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that sort of puts Alcazrs argument in the bin. halogen bulb failing mot and people with hids passing.
might be worth starting a post actualy asking people who have done the hids conversion rather than those that aint - as most would have already tried brighter bulbs at some point. how many have gone from halogen to hids and stayed with it and how many have gone from hids back to halogens
might be worth starting a post actualy asking people who have done the hids conversion rather than those that aint - as most would have already tried brighter bulbs at some point. how many have gone from halogen to hids and stayed with it and how many have gone from hids back to halogens
You know, I'm with Alcazar on this one, the HID conversions not legal for a reason. I reckon I've suffered the consequences of these being retro fitted to oncoming cars to often. There are already enough noob scoobs driving about with their font fogs on all day.
I reckon I'm going to nip and get a pair of Halfords own brand ones on bogof and see what they are like.
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Daz:
H4 Bi Kit is what you'll need. You can order from here: ScoobyNet Group Buy Specials
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I recommend the 4300k as it is what I fit to my cars, but 6k is the most popular.
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H4 Bi Kit is what you'll need. You can order from here: ScoobyNet Group Buy Specials
Before shot:
After shot:
(thanks to ryn004)
I recommend the 4300k as it is what I fit to my cars, but 6k is the most popular.
Engine running sweet
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what a **** poorly designed website that is.
Couldnt find anything remotely lighting related. even tried the serch facility using lighting, bulbs but gave up when I tried ultra and got 500 matches on over 30 pages non of the first 3 pages were anything to do with lighting!!!
Couldnt find anything remotely lighting related. even tried the serch facility using lighting, bulbs but gave up when I tried ultra and got 500 matches on over 30 pages non of the first 3 pages were anything to do with lighting!!!
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go on lexuslights.net and click on power bulbs we have them fitted on our scoobs and there just the same as the hid kits, if you order a pair just say gaz told you and i will put them on next day delivery for you
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H4 kit is bi-bulb which does dipped and main beam all in one unit.
ScoobyNet Group Buy Specials