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Old 08 January 2013, 07:37 PM
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After seeing various posts about dyno power runs there seems to be differing gear choices for the runs
On a 5 speed which gear is preferable and why
Most seem done in 3rd but some are 4th
What power /torque difference would be registered using 4th or 3rd
Old 08 January 2013, 07:49 PM
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3rd IIRC on a 5 speed, 4th on a 6 speed.

Mine, 5 speed box, will do over a ton in 4th.

It's to keep the wheel speed down, I believe mate. You're opening another can of worms though.
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Originally Posted by mickywrx
3rd IIRC on a 5 speed, 4th on a 6 speed.

Mine, 5 speed box, will do over a ton in 4th.

It's to keep the wheel speed down, I believe mate. You're opening another can of worms though.
I thought it was generally 3rd tbh , but I've recently seen a few in 4th
Old 08 January 2013, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by toneh
I thought it was generally 3rd tbh , but I've recently seen a few in 4th
All mine have done 3rd gear pulls on a 5 speed box.
Old 08 January 2013, 07:59 PM
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I was wondering why sometimes 4th is used and what are the downsides of using it
Old 08 January 2013, 08:02 PM
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i thought the gear was chosen as close as possible to 1:1 ???


different gear seemed to affect torque, but not power much ,http://www.iwsti.com/forums/power-br...-339-ftlb.html

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Old 08 January 2013, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by classicgc8
i thought the gear was chosen as close as possible to 1:1 ???


different gear seemed to affect torque, but not power much ,http://www.iwsti.com/forums/power-br...-339-ftlb.html
Was just reading about the 1:1 ratio ,
A few say 4th gives a more accurate reading due to the longer pull

I've no idea at all

If any mappers / operators could throw some light on the for and against ?
Old 08 January 2013, 08:41 PM
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You'll not get them all to agree, lol.

Dyno Dynamics say you should use the gear that achieves full power between 60-100mph. If the speed is higher than that, it can skew the figures to the high side and you should use a lower gear.
A Newage WRX should be ran in 3rd on a DD dyno and an Sti in 4th.
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Hi Tony


Usually 4th gear on 6 speed and 3rd gear on 5speed,but I would ask Charlie@SRR(he is usually on 22b forum) for sure

But this can help

http://www.andyforrestperformance.co.uk/26063.html



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Intresting, I always wanted to know why places use diffrent gears on a 5 speed, but as Martyn suggests if going over 100 can skew the figures and may not be accurate, hmm intresting.
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Originally Posted by MartynJ
You'll not get them all to agree, lol.

Dyno Dynamics say you should use the gear that achieves full power between 60-100mph. If the speed is higher than that, it can skew the figures to the high side and you should use a lower gear.
A Newage WRX should be ran in 3rd on a DD dyno and an Sti in 4th.
Why would some be run in 4th martyn , busta for example
( bet you're gettin worried now mr moves lol)
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Originally Posted by toneh
Why would some be run in 4th martyn , busta for example
( bet you're gettin worried now mr moves lol)
Lol
Think it could work in favour of the dyno/operator?
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
Lol
Think it could work in favour of the dyno/operator?
Ah yeah , bit synical mate , but could be a possibility
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So I may have less lol
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
So I may have less lol
Lol maybe
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Originally Posted by toneh
Lol maybe
Well I told you what happened last time and the tactic that was used so we shall see on sat
Old 08 January 2013, 09:43 PM
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Yeah gonna be interesting
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I remember my STi on the rollers at Power Engineering a few years ago being run in 5th. Checking the PSi3 meter afterwards showed a max. speed of 142 mph!

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Originally Posted by toneh
Yeah gonna be interesting
Have you tried using the virtual dyno software yet Toneh? it gives you the choice of translating your pull log in 3rd or 4th gear (obviously results will be wildly off if you do the pull in 3rd and tell V.Dyno it was 4th).
Was out the other night and it was telling me I was putting out 310bhp and 326lb/f though I think my bottom end is starting to show signs of weaknesses (I bought the car with no service history so was kinda expecting it sooner or later so 3 years down the road isnt too bad).
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Originally Posted by brendy76
Have you tried using the virtual dyno software yet Toneh? it gives you the choice of translating your pull log in 3rd or 4th gear (obviously results will be wildly off if you do the pull in 3rd and tell V.Dyno it was 4th).
Was out the other night and it was telling me I was putting out 310bhp and 326lb/f though I think my bottom end is starting to show signs of weaknesses (I bought the car with no service history so was kinda expecting it sooner or later so 3 years down the road isnt too bad).
Yeah mate had a bit of a dabble , I didn't know how to do the smoothing , someone since explained ( and I've forgot again lol)
I've read it can be quite accurate
Im getting mine on dyno probably this once , only because every man and his dog keeps asking what power is it , I don't think I'm gonna become a dyno junkie
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