chrisdicko

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As the pic below.... is how I've labelled the below pic correct?




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Saalro

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Look correct to me, from what i know at least.

What hosing/line will you be using to connect the system?

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leecalcars

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correct same as mine

leecalcars

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Saalro

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leecalcars where your hoses join to the fuel pump under the panel, how are they connected? Have you altered the connectors or are they push fit on with a clamp?

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BlueBugEye

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I'm looking at doing mine soon but will be putting a 10 micron filter inline between the lift pump and the surge tank to protect the Bosch 044 and then leaving a filter the the OE location under the bonnet. But how to connect to the factory lines is still under debate!

Saalro

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Why do you need to protect the pump?

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chrisdicko

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Cheers guys

Saalro, I will be using normal-ish fuel hose, nothing fancy.

BlueBugEye, I've thought about sticking a filter in there too, but I'm going to rely on the lift pumps filter sock.

Dutch Scooby lover

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Setup in the picture is not the best actually.

The return to the tank should be at the highest point, the feed from the tank should be below that, and the line going to the front should be at the lowest point.
That way the feed towards the front is (99% of the time) below the level of the fuel.

I've cut of the return to tank, and feed from the intank pump, and welded on -6AN fittings, the balance pump (that sucks fuel from the other half of the tank is stock, and the vapour return is blanked off.

chrisdicko

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Mine is labelled as you have described isn't it DSL? Or do you mean Lee's photo?

RICHARD J

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Your set up is correct same as mine & was confirmed by my mapper. Push fit onto original lines is fine if using braided buy the proper hose finisher clamps.

stevep360

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chris i have the same swirl pot from litchfield, where did you buy your pipe work from?

Saalro

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I've been told by Goodridge and Think Auto (MOCAL) you shouldn't use worm drive type clips with briaded teflon hose.

Dutch Scooby lover, if you have welded on fittings, how is it connected in the engine bay as it is only push fit on the hard lines?

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Dutch Scooby lover

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@ Chris, I'm a total idiot.
The piece the pump sits on is also a feed, so your hose routing is indeed correct.

@ Saalro, I used Torques hardline adapters on both ends.
I cut of the fuel pipes in the rear right below the seat base, so I was left with about 10cm of straight hardline, and then fitted these.

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Torques-U-K...=p4634.c0.m322

I did the same in the front, if you cut of the OEM hardline right near the bulbhead in a way that leaves you as much of straight hardline the torques adapters will work.

Saalro

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Ahhh awesome, so you don't need to flare the end? Think you may have just solved my problems!

Got any photographs of your setup?

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chrisdicko

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Cheers DSL can I ask what size the feed and return hard pipes are in the engine bay? Are they both 8mm?

Steve, I've got some speedflow fittings at the moment in blue/black with -6AN to Push On, but when I fit my swirl pot, I will get Torques fittings, again push on and -6AN, and use Aeroquip hose like this http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/vie...d=170741674954 as I'm not fussed about braided.

Dutch Scooby lover

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I believe they are indeed 8mm, Chris.

@ Sam.
I have some indeed.

Swirl pot, in the boot, drivers side.


3 port FPR (had a 2 port one, but this cleans up the engine bay a bit)


Fuel feed.
Top line comes from the hardline adapter, the two Y ones each go to one OEM rail with welded on -An6 fittings.


Fuel Rails


Sadly I do not have any pictures of the fuel tank lid with welded on fittings, but if you have any questions just ask them, and I'll try and explain.

stevep360

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thats dude, are you putting a FPR in and are you keeping oem feeds or putting rails in?

chrisdicko

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I've already got a FPR, and parallel fuel rails with -6AN fittings already

Saalro

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Thanks man, don't suppose you have one of the hard line fittings?

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AbbasSTI

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Hardline fittings are quite easy, this video helped me a lot:
this video The torques fitting is exactly the same. The difficult bit is cutting off the bulb head at the end of the hard line if you don't have the tools.
This is my finished work using Torques hard line adaptor and push on fittings with aeroquip hose,

Saalro

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Thanks for that, real useful.
Out of interest why have you used these connectors and then used push fit?

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chrisdicko

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What do you mean Sam?

Push fit is just an alternative to using braided. I'm using push fit with the above fittings for ease of use and less cost (for the braided)

Saalro

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I thought the whole idea of using braided hose and these fittings was to make a strong system that can hold X amount of pressure. If you have braided hose and fittings that can withstand X amount of pressure, then using push fit would be a weak point in the system.

You have used hard line adaptors above with and then used push fit hosing, why not save the £ and just use hosing and worm drive clips? Or did you want the looks?

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chrisdicko

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I'm totally not going for looks on my install, just practicality. I'm more than sure the push on fittings can with hold the fuel pressures that most people need?

I might be wrong, but I thought the 'proper' push on fittings like above are miles above standard straight pipe, with hose pushed on with a worm drive clip holding it on (I could be wrong though)

AbbasSTI

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As Chris said, the push on fittings work with AN 6 so the hard line adaptor is essential. The effort required to get the push on hose over the fittings is ridiculous (using a heat gun or hair dryer) = 17bar pressure rating so no more little fuel leaks the only way to get the hose off in the future is to cut it.
Also the Aeroquip hose has a 9.5mm I.D so too big to go on the OEM hard line

Saalro

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That's interesting, that push fit has a higher pressure rating than the hard line adaptor (100PSI).

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360ste

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Looking at this myself. The only thought I have to the pressure raiting is that as the flexible pipe stretches slightly as the pressure increases this actually tightens the grip on the push fitting. If you think about stretching a balloon before blowing it up it gets thinner the more you stretch it. IMO

One thing I am not sure on is hose sizes, in AN6 8mm pipe? As thinking about using copper pipe and hardline fitting when pipework is external to the car.
Cheers Steve