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Old 27 August 2011, 03:38 PM
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I have an RB320 which has recently been remapped. Today I opened the oil filler cap and air was pulsing out. Never noticed this before. All my oil and water levels are fine.

Just after a bit of advice of what problem it could be if anything?

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Old 27 August 2011, 03:54 PM
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That's normal mate. If there is any smoke pulsing out too.....that's bad.
Old 27 August 2011, 03:55 PM
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Its caused by the increase in boost escaping past the piston rings and pressurising the crankcase, if you are running high boost you should really have a dedicated oil breather system (catch can )
Old 27 August 2011, 03:57 PM
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Do it when everything is hot too
Old 27 August 2011, 03:59 PM
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Cheers for the replies. No smoke coming out. Currently running around 1.3 bar. I have been looking into a catch cans so I will look at getting one soon.
Old 27 August 2011, 04:03 PM
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wr pete, there won't be any boost pressure in there at idle surely?
Old 27 August 2011, 04:12 PM
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Not at idle Chris, just under boost, it sounds like its getting trapped somewhere until the oil cap is released.
Old 27 August 2011, 04:22 PM
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I see what you mean.

But I think the OP means sat at idle, there is constantly air pulsing out, not just when the cap is released.
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Originally Posted by chrisdicko
I see what you mean.

But I think the OP means sat at idle, there is constantly air pulsing out, not just when the cap is released.
Oh ok well that dont sound good, back pressure at idle is usually worn piston rings
Old 27 August 2011, 04:35 PM
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It does it at idle, only when I take the cap off. As I said though no smoke.

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I'm sure it's normal If there was smoke, it would mean ringland failure.

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puff puff is normal,smoke on the other hand wouldnt be,ring land issue ,its worth mentioning if its forged then it needs to be warmed up to allow for expansion of the rings
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does it virtually dissapear when the engine is revved to about 2000 rpm ?? due to vacuum ?? if so dont worry
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Engine is not forged and it is just like a puff puff. I will check if it disappears when I rev it when the missis gets home
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As long as there is no smoke, test warm.....your ok
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take the oil cap off with the engine idling and cover the filler hole with the palm of your hand if you can feel pressure building up then it will be worn rings, or maybe a blockage somewhere in the breather system, you should get someone look at it mate, just to be safe.
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Originally Posted by classicgc8
does it virtually dissapear when the engine is revved to about 2000 rpm ?? due to vacuum ?? if so dont worry
It does virtually disappear when revved to 2000rpm. It feels like there is still a slight bit of air coming out but not like a puff puff, just a very small constant draft of air.

Originally Posted by wr pete
take the oil cap off with the engine idling and cover the filler hole with the palm of your hand if you can feel pressure building up then it will be worn rings, or maybe a blockage somewhere in the breather system, you should get someone look at it mate, just to be safe.
Doesn't feel like there is much pressure building up really.
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ok dont worry then,mines the same too,thought about doing a catch can setup but not got around to it yet.
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Originally Posted by classicgc8
ok dont worry then,mines the same too,thought about doing a catch can setup but not got around to it yet.
I want the RCM one but the price is a bit steep.
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All engines have 'blow by' as its called and is a must have due to the fact if there was no where for a little pressure to release the engine would never turn over
As already mentioned as long as you are not seeing a lot of smoke you are fine tbho.
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Originally Posted by prodriverules
All engines have 'blow by' as its called and is a must have due to the fact if there was no where for a little pressure to release the engine would never turn over
As already mentioned as long as you are not seeing a lot of smoke you are fine tbho.
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Its something I have never noticed berfore on any of my previous cars. You live and learn
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Originally Posted by thestumper
Cheers
Its something I have never noticed berfore on any of my previous cars. You live and learn
It's the hole reason for engines having breather systems to recycle the blow by gases or crank case gases as its also termed back through the engine.
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