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Old 01 June 2011, 02:46 PM
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Having to replace my turbo on my v1 wrx
what's the best out of the three and why?

Im after a target of 340-350bhp but want a responsive road car so spooling and holding the boost is key.
any suggestions is greatly appreciated guys as looking to get one now.
Old 01 June 2011, 02:57 PM
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VF34 is best from these turbos,with supported mods you will see 340-350bhp.


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Old 01 June 2011, 03:08 PM
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vf34 - i got one. i have 320bhp but the spool and boost is brilliant. so perfectly suited to the wrx lump
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Replied on the SES mate top man thanks for the advice!
Old 01 June 2011, 03:45 PM
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34/45 whichever you can find in good nick that is cheaper

34 produces a bit more top end
35 slightly better spool because of the p15 exhaust housing

Many people eroneously think that the 34 is the better spooling because of the rolller bearing design. It isn't!

There is little between them really. Both are cracking turbos for a 2litre car. Got 337bhp and 343lbs ft out of my 3f35 with appropriate supporting mods.

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Old 01 June 2011, 03:48 PM
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So they are both as good as each other? and both good for 350bhp and better spool than the 16g?
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i have an ihi vf34 turbo . i paid £800 for it brand new , spools at 3k and is capable of 350bhp . great turbo for quick daily driver
Old 01 June 2011, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by initialD
i have an ihi vf34 turbo . i paid £800 for it brand new , spools at 3k and is capable of 350bhp . great turbo for quick daily driver

At what Rpm do you hit full boost?
Old 01 June 2011, 06:06 PM
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Nothing wrong with a 16g, will do the power your looking for and spools nice and quick, from arond 2500/2600 rpm, plus strong enou to run without dump valve should you wish, vf wont do this comfortably
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to be honest i havent been out in my scoob for over a year now and i cant remember lol
Old 01 June 2011, 06:11 PM
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Stick with the TD05 as I mentioned on your other thread, also won't need to convert it to 90 degree entry

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34 is roller barring which is a better design as is stronger.
I've had both 35 and 34 in the past and personally prefer the 34, but now have a td05 18g and that blows both those other tubbies out the water
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Originally Posted by wrxsti280
Nothing wrong with a 16g, will do the power your looking for and spools nice and quick, from arond 2500/2600 rpm, plus strong enou to run without dump valve should you wish, vf wont do this comfortably
VF34/35 are ok without a DV; its VF turbos prior to the 30 that running a DV-less is not recommended

I sugest the VF34/35 are 330 bhp turbos; expect around that and be happier if the figure turns out higher.
Old 01 June 2011, 07:27 PM
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if you dont want the noise just put a recirc on, running none is pointless.

vf35/v34 will all be wrong fitment as standard.

but as far as what turbo, if your buying new SC36 is best of the lot and all around the same price, if you buying second hand then you can pick up a vf35 for a few hundred quid.
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Thought these turbos fitted straight onto my car other than 90degree elbow for the filter pipe?

or am i wrong and i need other parts to fit this?
Old 01 June 2011, 07:33 PM
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yeah do need the 90 degree switch, not sure how successfull it is on the vf's/sc's tbh so prob worth a pone call to some pro's for some proper advice.
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i will ask some tuners
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Whats the advantage to running without a DV?
Old 01 June 2011, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bengo
Whats the advantage to running without a DV?
Chatter,but still think turbo will spool up slower without the DV or OE recirc.
And some DV cause on MAF based ECU real mess.



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Old 01 June 2011, 11:21 PM
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About the VF34 and SC36,still think VF34 is generally good turbo for money,because you can find this turbo easy for good money,what i can tell about the SC36 which you will find hardly used somewhere.

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You'll most likely find the VF35 cheapest. Good ones can be had for £300 easily

SC36 the one to go for if you dont mind spending more - they're new, so not many floating around and they will command more 2nd hand. How much do you want to spend.

Runing no DV, if anything, will help with lag between gearchanges, but on MAF based ECUs can produce reversion artefacts (I know this from experience). If you have the std ECU and don't have to lose the DV, don't would be my advice.

It's a lovely noise though - and if you've got a set up that will tolerate it, I'd recommend it!
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any other vf's that would work better for me other wise il just get another 16g
Old 02 June 2011, 01:52 PM
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The VF43 off an 07 STi is a lovely little turbo. I sold mine a while back - will cost you more than £300 though!!

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im looking to spend up to 400quid, but want the to get the choice right, isnt the 37 for a twin scroll?
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
The VF37 off an 07 STi is a lovely little turbo. I sold mine a while back - will cost you more than £300 though!!
VF37 is twin scroll and he will need lot more than straight swap.


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Buger, sorry, got my numbers mixed up, it's a VF43!! Single scroll, fitted to 07stis as std!
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Originally Posted by scooby kid
im looking to spend up to 400quid, but want the to get the choice right, isnt the 37 for a twin scroll?
VF34 is best turbo for these money £400.



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done! solid answer lol
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How do I go about blacking the the dv? Just fabricate a piece of metal to cover the hole in the tmic? What do you do with the pipework to the rcirc?

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Originally Posted by bengo
How do I go about blacking the the dv? Just fabricate a piece of metal to cover the hole in the tmic? What do you do with the pipework to the rcirc?

Ben
Have look on this

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...-sti-tmic.html

https://www.scoobynet.com/general-te...v-on-tmic.html


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