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Old 28 March 2011, 06:22 PM
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Hey all, just thought id have a rant on here.
My 24 year old brother has just bought a car that spanks my scooby .......on a run at least.
He has a Honda Integra turbo with 327 whp. On a pull he eats me up, but I have saved some face by leaving him on the twisteys.......
I need more power.....
Old 28 March 2011, 06:25 PM
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327bhp at the wheels! That's around 400bhp at the flywheel. I guess it's a Type-R with some fairly substantial turbo conversion and engine work?

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Old 28 March 2011, 06:28 PM
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also its a much lighter car, no wonder it spanks you.

how does it do off the line tho? no doubt he doesnt get decent traction til 2nd gear?
Old 28 March 2011, 06:31 PM
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LOL< he doest get any traction till 3rd. Even then it torque steers like a pig. Yeah it was tested at 380 at flywheel and has huge turbo. Does make me smile when Im in it, but dont like being left behind........
Im assuming Ill need to plough serious money into my classic to come close.
But, there is always my crotch rocket
Old 28 March 2011, 06:35 PM
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so his car is only good for 60-150mph.

has he got a LSD? i was planning on something like this a while back, but they are just straight line racers. not what i enjoy
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Exactly that mate, I said that to him. only good on a hot dry day from 60. The way boost comes in is mental. He does have a lsd, but it works so hard. Even in 4th on high boost (28psi) it snakes like crazy
Old 28 March 2011, 06:41 PM
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just get him to go on a track day, and youll show him whos boss
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I have suggested Brands for that ;-)
Old 28 March 2011, 08:07 PM
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Is it the grey one?
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you're right. 400 genuine horsepower in a classic is not cheap.
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No, its a red dc2 with carbon bonnet. It was built by Thor motorsport.
Going back to power in scooby, its probably gonn abe cheaper to buy one already done than me do mine, isnt it?
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327whp is over 400fwhp & 380fwhp is under 327whp.
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Originally Posted by sbushby
No, its a red dc2 with carbon bonnet. It was built by Thor motorsport.
Going back to power in scooby, its probably gonn abe cheaper to buy one already done than me do mine, isnt it?
http://bbs.22b.com/cgi-bin/ultimateb...377;p=1#000019
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Nice scoob there! Very good value for money. Someone gonna get a bargain!
Old 29 March 2011, 08:35 AM
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53bhp loss threw a fwd sounds about right if not bit much my scoob dropped 64bhp
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Originally Posted by sbushby
No, its a red dc2 with carbon bonnet. It was built by Thor motorsport.
Going back to power in scooby, its probably gonn abe cheaper to buy one already done than me do mine, isnt it?
Do it yourself, it'll cost a bit more, but you can sleep well in the knowledge that you chose the engine builder and tuner, and it is more likely not to go pop on the next drive down the shops.
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MMM, maybe i will just bite the bullet and do it slowly but properly. First thing then, keep 2.0 or go for 2.5 ?
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2.1 just out off interest is yours a uk,wrx or sti?
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uK 2000 I think. Think its about 212bhp standard. Wish I had kept my import ra......grr
Old 30 March 2011, 09:25 PM
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How much does your brother pay on insurance? at 24yrs it can't be cheap
Old 30 March 2011, 09:54 PM
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Bloody git rekons with Adrian Flux, and declaring turbo conversion , exhaust and air filter its only £900 a year....
I did try tell him that seems a bit to good to be true.
Old 30 March 2011, 11:28 PM
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aha, remember this one.
was in max power with a kit a few years back.

turbo integras are the bees knees!

mine from a couple of years ago..





wasnt running big bhp, 260ish, but would tear up imprezas n evos
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DC2 was 1101kg IIRC?

So 260 FWHP would be 238bhp/tonne. A late WRX or STi with 276bhp and 1270kg is only 221bhp/tonne, so can see how it would indeed just have the measure of them (certainly in a straight line drag race on a dry, decent surfaced road ).

Evos are more portly than the Impreza for the same like for like MY, so no problem there either...

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But what you really want is a VF28 turbo'd Starlet Glanza! 300 odd bhp in c.800kg Hairy!
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Ill get some pics up soon, Cant bring myself to take pics of the stupidly big turbo
I am a little jealous, but as we know let it rain or let here be corners and Ill be up there in front
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I bet a turbo'd DC2 is thrilling? Even the regular NA VTEC puts you on edge. But I can imagine the LSD is working overtime, and makes the car tiring with all that extra torque?

That's the beauty of (the Impreza's) 4WD - effectively halving the torque at each front wheel, and at the same time adding the same to the rear i.e. each of the 4 wheels sharing 25% of the torque in steady state situations. Ergo, frees up more of each wheel's 'envelope' for braking and accelerative traction...

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£10k amazed that it's still for sale

TX.
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Originally Posted by joz8968
I bet a turbo'd DC2 is thrilling? Even the regular NA VTEC puts you on edge. But I can imagine the LSD is working overtime, and makes the car tiring with all that extra torque?

That's the beauty of (the Impreza's) 4WD - effectively halving the torque at each front wheel, and at the same time adding the same to the rear i.e. each of the 4 wheels sharing 25% of the torque in steady state situations. Ergo, frees up more of each wheel's 'envelope' for braking and accelerative traction...
It is but a friend had a forged turbo civic vtis 250whp and it was just pants trying to get traction in 1st and 2nd, pure spin city..

hondas are made to be nasp modded, as proven by a stockish k20/k24 eg which done the 1/4 mile in just over 11 seconds this weekend!
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
£10k amazed that it's still for sale

TX.
Tell me about it, if I had the 10k I would snap his arm off. Only prob is wife wont let me get a new toy as baby on way
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