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bottom end has gone
driving home i heard a rattle from the engine it only happened in between 5-6000 rpm but after hearing it i slowed right down. when i got home i noticed the oil pressure was down and check the oil level but it was fine. its been off the road since about two months. i charged the battery and started it, it was rattling like a crack head needing a fix. i was hoping deep down it wasnt the bottom bearing but it was.
my options are, only to get a rebuild. im not up for a cheap waste of time engine thats going to pack in.
but theres one catch because of the bad weather i havent been able to work. founds arent coming in but there is still some in the bank but not enough for a rebuild.
as soon as the founds come in it will get rebuilt.
i did ask the local garage about prices even rough prices but they only said bring it in and we will see how it goes when its stripped.
i only phoned to have a rough idea price wise so i could save some cash for the rebuild.
iv been on this site since this happened to my car (im now registered, hi to all) reading all sorts of posts about bottom end going.
im not sure of prices tho or where to have the work done?
2.0 rebuild with uprated internals
or
2.1 rebuild
my car 1999 jap import impreza sti type r
full de-cat turbo back exhaust
lightened fly wheel
rcm inducting kit
walbro 225L fuel pump
uprated spark plugs
ecutek remap by andy forrest
i would like people to give me info on prices and there options on who to use to rebuild it plus any more info is welcome
thanks for reading
my options are, only to get a rebuild. im not up for a cheap waste of time engine thats going to pack in.
but theres one catch because of the bad weather i havent been able to work. founds arent coming in but there is still some in the bank but not enough for a rebuild.
as soon as the founds come in it will get rebuilt.
i did ask the local garage about prices even rough prices but they only said bring it in and we will see how it goes when its stripped.
i only phoned to have a rough idea price wise so i could save some cash for the rebuild.
iv been on this site since this happened to my car (im now registered, hi to all) reading all sorts of posts about bottom end going.
im not sure of prices tho or where to have the work done?
2.0 rebuild with uprated internals
or
2.1 rebuild
my car 1999 jap import impreza sti type r
full de-cat turbo back exhaust
lightened fly wheel
rcm inducting kit
walbro 225L fuel pump
uprated spark plugs
ecutek remap by andy forrest
i would like people to give me info on prices and there options on who to use to rebuild it plus any more info is welcome
thanks for reading
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As above. My hawkeye is currently with API (the engine didn't go bang; having a 450bhp conversion done).
It MUST go to a subaru specialist, no trying to do it on the cheap at Dodgy Derek's!
Get the job done right first time, pay once, leave happy!
It MUST go to a subaru specialist, no trying to do it on the cheap at Dodgy Derek's!
Get the job done right first time, pay once, leave happy!
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A.P.I and engine tuner have been in my mind since i have had a look on the forum
but i live in aberdeen how will i get the car to them, i dont have the facilities to take out the engine.
i work for myself and this winter hasnt been good for me, i havent worked for a while because of the weather. but there is work for me in the coming weeks.
i think il have to wait a bit for my car to get fixed. its driving me mad tho cos i see it every day just sitting there and would love to go for a blast
do A.P.i and engine tuner let you pay them up or do you need to pay in full when the car is done
but i live in aberdeen how will i get the car to them, i dont have the facilities to take out the engine.
i work for myself and this winter hasnt been good for me, i havent worked for a while because of the weather. but there is work for me in the coming weeks.
i think il have to wait a bit for my car to get fixed. its driving me mad tho cos i see it every day just sitting there and would love to go for a blast
do A.P.i and engine tuner let you pay them up or do you need to pay in full when the car is done
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A.P.I and engine tuner have been in my mind since i have had a look on the forum
but i live in aberdeen how will i get the car to them, i dont have the facilities to take out the engine.
i work for myself and this winter hasnt been good for me, i havent worked for a while because of the weather. but there is work for me in the coming weeks.
i think il have to wait a bit for my car to get fixed. its driving me mad tho cos i see it every day just sitting there and would love to go for a blast
do A.P.i and engine tuner let you pay them up or do you need to pay in full when the car is done
but i live in aberdeen how will i get the car to them, i dont have the facilities to take out the engine.
i work for myself and this winter hasnt been good for me, i havent worked for a while because of the weather. but there is work for me in the coming weeks.
i think il have to wait a bit for my car to get fixed. its driving me mad tho cos i see it every day just sitting there and would love to go for a blast
do A.P.i and engine tuner let you pay them up or do you need to pay in full when the car is done
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A.P.I and engine tuner have been in my mind since i have had a look on the forum
but i live in aberdeen how will i get the car to them, i dont have the facilities to take out the engine.
i work for myself and this winter hasnt been good for me, i havent worked for a while because of the weather. but there is work for me in the coming weeks.
i think il have to wait a bit for my car to get fixed. its driving me mad tho cos i see it every day just sitting there and would love to go for a blast
do A.P.i and engine tuner let you pay them up or do you need to pay in full when the car is done
but i live in aberdeen how will i get the car to them, i dont have the facilities to take out the engine.
i work for myself and this winter hasnt been good for me, i havent worked for a while because of the weather. but there is work for me in the coming weeks.
i think il have to wait a bit for my car to get fixed. its driving me mad tho cos i see it every day just sitting there and would love to go for a blast
do A.P.i and engine tuner let you pay them up or do you need to pay in full when the car is done
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i've heard you need deep pockets if you go to API, a m8 of mine went for a simtek & a few other bits, david told him the injectors he had were no good, so he had to buy some from them to get the remap done, it turned out that the injectors that david said were no good were absolutely fine, so beware, once your car is with them you are stuck with what they want to charge you.
if it was me i would use someone local to you that is recommended, ask on the scottish scooby site
if it was me i would use someone local to you that is recommended, ask on the scottish scooby site
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i've heard you need deep pockets if you go to API, a m8 of mine went for a simtek & a few other bits, david told him the injectors he had were no good, so he had to buy some from them to get the remap done, it turned out that the injectors that david said were no good were absolutely fine, so beware, once your car is with them you are stuck with what they want to charge you.
if it was me i would use someone local to you that is recommended, ask on the scottish scooby site
if it was me i would use someone local to you that is recommended, ask on the scottish scooby site
Did he mean "No good for what you want to do?"
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I have a built Stage 1 brand new STi 2.5 short motor. This is brand new block, nitrided crank, latest Subaru rods and Manley pistons. The guy it was intended for wrote his car off just before Christmas in the bad weather.
We could remove your engine, use your heads and ancilliaries and have the whole lot up and running in a week. Subject to details such as head gaskets, compression ratio, oil pump and other details we could tie down quickly and easily a fixed price for what we would do and have it all done quite quickly.
Top of the head budget is £3K but it depends purely on the spec we agree and the price would be fixed unless changes were made during the build.
Biggest considerations I see are logistics to get your car here, again we can give a fixed price for that and running in map subject to what ECU you have.
We could remove your engine, use your heads and ancilliaries and have the whole lot up and running in a week. Subject to details such as head gaskets, compression ratio, oil pump and other details we could tie down quickly and easily a fixed price for what we would do and have it all done quite quickly.
Top of the head budget is £3K but it depends purely on the spec we agree and the price would be fixed unless changes were made during the build.
Biggest considerations I see are logistics to get your car here, again we can give a fixed price for that and running in map subject to what ECU you have.
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Been there, done that: wasted money thinking I could scrimp on the cost and only ended up paying more in the long run. There have been numerous occasions where David has flagged me of spending on the car where he could have made a few Bob going along with my over enthusiasm.
He is as honest as the day is long and APi are a class act.
I've just trusted them with a big job (think 5 figures) on my new Hawkeye, which, given my relatively humble means, is not something I take lightly, but I have no apprehension about the outcome whatsoever with APi - I know it'll be right!
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I have a built Stage 1 brand new STi 2.5 short motor. This is brand new block, nitrided crank, latest Subaru rods and Manley pistons. The guy it was intended for wrote his car off just before Christmas in the bad weather.
We could remove your engine, use your heads and ancilliaries and have the whole lot up and running in a week. Subject to details such as head gaskets, compression ratio, oil pump and other details we could tie down quickly and easily a fixed price for what we would do and have it all done quite quickly.
Top of the head budget is £3K but it depends purely on the spec we agree and the price would be fixed unless changes were made during the build.
Biggest considerations I see are logistics to get your car here, again we can give a fixed price for that and running in map subject to what ECU you have.
We could remove your engine, use your heads and ancilliaries and have the whole lot up and running in a week. Subject to details such as head gaskets, compression ratio, oil pump and other details we could tie down quickly and easily a fixed price for what we would do and have it all done quite quickly.
Top of the head budget is £3K but it depends purely on the spec we agree and the price would be fixed unless changes were made during the build.
Biggest considerations I see are logistics to get your car here, again we can give a fixed price for that and running in map subject to what ECU you have.
wot sort of power was it built to handle or wot do you think (as above) my engine would when finished?
am i right, it wasnt fitted to your costumers car?
im going to leave it a few days before i decide wot to do with it.
i'l keep you in mind, thanks
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+1. If anything, my experience is that if David is asking you to spend it's for a good reason. If you don't ,you'll only end up with a car that isn't performing optimally and eventually come around to him to sort it admitting you should have parted with the money and done it properly in the first place.
Been there, done that: wasted money thinking I could scrimp on the cost and only ended up paying more in the long run. There have been numerous occasions where David has flagged me of spending on the car where he could have made a few Bob going along with my over enthusiasm.
He is an honest guy. I've just trusted him with a very big investment, given my relatively humble means (not something I'd normally do lightly, but I have no apprehension whatsoever with APi).
Been there, done that: wasted money thinking I could scrimp on the cost and only ended up paying more in the long run. There have been numerous occasions where David has flagged me of spending on the car where he could have made a few Bob going along with my over enthusiasm.
He is an honest guy. I've just trusted him with a very big investment, given my relatively humble means (not something I'd normally do lightly, but I have no apprehension whatsoever with APi).
i have to agree, i dont know much about a.p.i but wot i have read on here
he knows wot he is talking about
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As we have the Stage 1 engine ready to go I think we are talking about five working days from arrival of your car, seven at the very outside if existing workload screws us up.
As the engine retains the latest Subaru STi rods it is intended for operation to 450 bhp. Change the rods and it is over 500 bhp.
So he does not have a car for us to fit it to now.
As we have the Stage 1 engine ready to go I think we are talking about five working days from arrival of your car, seven at the very outside if existing workload screws us up.
As the engine retains the latest Subaru STi rods it is intended for operation to 450 bhp. Change the rods and it is over 500 bhp.
I have a built Stage 1 brand new STi 2.5 short motor. This is brand new block, nitrided crank, latest Subaru rods and Manley pistons. The guy it was intended for wrote his car off just before Christmas in the bad weather.
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i've heard you need deep pockets if you go to API, a m8 of mine went for a simtek & a few other bits, david told him the injectors he had were no good, so he had to buy some from them to get the remap done, it turned out that the injectors that david said were no good were absolutely fine, so beware, once your car is with them you are stuck with what they want to charge you.
if it was me i would use someone local to you that is recommended, ask on the scottish scooby site
if it was me i would use someone local to you that is recommended, ask on the scottish scooby site
David O'Brien and his guys at API are genuine specialists who have a proud reputation on here. I have used them for major work in the past and refuse to believe the above spout
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Steve Whitson Motorsport down near Edinburgh have a very good reputation over on Scottish Scoobies. I'm also in Aberdeen and due to the logistics, thats where I'd probably put my car if the worst ever happens.
All the english engine builders mentioned here would do a great job, but when you live at the **** end of nowhere, its costly to get to them.
All the english engine builders mentioned here would do a great job, but when you live at the **** end of nowhere, its costly to get to them.
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hi every one thanks for the info. i have got a few places to phone now and i have had really good feed back from you all.
sw motorsports
harveys
api
because im from aberdeen any garage that further than api may be to costly to get the car to them.
wot about brian downie in kemney? has anyone had there engine rebuilt std or uprated
from him.
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because im from aberdeen any garage that further than api may be to costly to get the car to them.
wot about brian downie in kemney? has anyone had there engine rebuilt std or uprated
from him.
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Don't know anything about the ones you refer to.
You might find it hard to believe mate, but if you really want to give the car to somewhere local, give APi a ring and ask David for recommendations: he's well connected and knows who's good and who to avoid, and if he's not going to get your business he'd rather see you take the car to somewhere that'll do a decent job on it than have you approach him after having been taken for a ride!
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You might find it hard to believe mate, but if you really want to give the car to somewhere local, give APi a ring and ask David for recommendations: he's well connected and knows who's good and who to avoid, and if he's not going to get your business he'd rather see you take the car to somewhere that'll do a decent job on it than have you approach him after having been taken for a ride!
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Ross, just so as you know I might live in Darlington but I am from Dalkeith.
I have no connection with SW but I know they have built some good engines and at Loanhead/Bilston they are 140 miles closer to Aberdeen than Darlington.
Because we already have a stage 1 2.5 engine built we can give you or someone a quick turnround and get them back on the road quickly.
I have no connection with SW but I know they have built some good engines and at Loanhead/Bilston they are 140 miles closer to Aberdeen than Darlington.
Because we already have a stage 1 2.5 engine built we can give you or someone a quick turnround and get them back on the road quickly.
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Another thing to think about is why did the big end go? Smart money is on MAF with the MY99/00, the last thing you need is 2 rebuilds so check / replace MAF is a must
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hi mate, how are you meant to check a maf if the engine light doesnt come on and the car is running ok. Are there certain checks that can be done?
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i've heard you need deep pockets if you go to API, a m8 of mine went for a simtek & a few other bits, david told him the injectors he had were no good, so he had to buy some from them to get the remap done, it turned out that the injectors that david said were no good were absolutely fine, so beware, once your car is with them you are stuck with what they want to charge you.
if it was me i would use someone local to you that is recommended, ask on the scottish scooby site
if it was me i would use someone local to you that is recommended, ask on the scottish scooby site
Why is it that a disgruntled customer never calls but his mates do ? On an forum?
I would never sell someone something they didn't need or want. that goes very much against the grain at API. It is most likely that they injectors were not suitable or necessary for what the guy was trying to do.
Ask him to ring me if it is such a problem.
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