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Old 27 December 2010, 05:23 PM
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i got my car back and got to do 2000 miles and ive done 40 miles in a wk is there any other way i got told not to do motorway then the engine builder told me it be fine
Old 27 December 2010, 05:32 PM
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As long as you dont boot it, and keep off boost you can go anywhere
Old 27 December 2010, 05:35 PM
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right ok they have bipast my boost plus i turned my controller on to 0 so i cant boost lol
Old 27 December 2010, 05:38 PM
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I had a run in map done on my apexi pfc with 0.6 bar boost on the apexi avc-r and didn't go past 4.5k rev's
Old 27 December 2010, 05:41 PM
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ive got told i did not need one as my ecu is set up for the fueling and 700cc injectors and i comfermd it with andy carr t realy thought i need one with the things i done to engine
Old 27 December 2010, 05:47 PM
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What have you done to it then mate?
Old 27 December 2010, 05:52 PM
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fully forged 2.2 by alan jeffrys twin scroll turbo set up wr1 box and diff oil catch tanks 700cc injectors full systam fmic will have earth kit and dccd cotroller and some other stuff cant remember lol

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Old 27 December 2010, 05:54 PM
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Where you told to just drive it however then mate as all fresh built engines need to be run in unless they have been bench tested.
Old 27 December 2010, 06:00 PM
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just got told to do an oil change at 50/500/1000 at a 1000 use semi then 2000 use full ant dont rev past 3g at mo ive got running in oil in it alan jeffry told me to do this
Old 27 December 2010, 06:03 PM
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To be fair i wouldn't hesitate to take advice of Alan,and what you have been told about the oil change's is spot on although once you've done around the 500 mile mark you could start to rev it to around 4.5/5k rev's with no problems as by then the rings have started to bed in quite well.
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When runnin in PROPER high performance bikes you get told dont rev it hard and dont hold it at constant revs (i.e 4000rpm for 100miles).
Old 27 December 2010, 06:07 PM
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ok pal ok to go on motor way one of my mates got a 2.5 ran it in for 50 miles and got it mapt to 500 never had a problem not yet lol ive been no fatser than 40 mph
Old 27 December 2010, 06:08 PM
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Are you having a laugh 2000 miles. 1000 miles at the very most dude. And if you have only have the pistons done 500 miles.
Old 27 December 2010, 06:11 PM
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im not pal 2000 miles i thought that woz much
Old 27 December 2010, 06:11 PM
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Oh and it good to mix your driving, some motorway and some town.
Old 27 December 2010, 06:13 PM
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ok ive been down country rds and blackpool town lol
Old 27 December 2010, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by EH52WRX
Are you having a laugh 2000 miles. 1000 miles at the very most dude. And if you have only have the pistons done 500 miles.
My API built Hawkeye was run in for 1000 miles nearly all motorway.Revs and boost were limited by a running in map.Get in your car and drive
Old 27 December 2010, 06:22 PM
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ive been doing alot off pointless ones lol
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If the bores were honed right with a nice cross hatch and the rings gapped correctly i would say keep it easy but flexible for 500 miles. flexible meaning try not to keep the engine rev at a constant rev.Stay well away from boost as your Turbo will suffer with the running in oil (mineral). After 500 miles i would put in semi or do your turbo a favor and put in fully synthetic. Avoid revving high when not under load.
Old 27 December 2010, 07:30 PM
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I take it every engine is different, my running in procedure is drive it as normal with a rev limit setup at 5k. (no running in oil for me just a very good synthetic)
Old 27 December 2010, 07:39 PM
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Running in oil, non synthetic. Drive gently and stay off boost and say 3,000 rpm for first 500 miles.
Let engine warm up gently and no heavy load. ie not straining up a hill in high gear at low rpm.
Avoid constant rpm.
Then go to 3,500 rpm and light boost but otherwise as above and after another 250 mls go to 4k rpm and so on adding a little boost each time.
At 1500 mls and using up to 4,500 rpm and odd forrays to 5 k rpm do an oil change to whatever oil is your choice, hopefully a quality fully synthetic, remap and then start adding RPM and boost, in steps to max boost. During mapping the car will have been run to close to max rpm and run at max boost but you can build up to that in bursts/stages.
Old 27 December 2010, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by F1 CJE UK
I take it every engine is different, my running in procedure is drive it as normal with a rev limit setup at 5k. (no running in oil for me just a very good synthetic)
You can't really run an engine in with fully synthetic oil's because of the polymers in the oil. These polymers are so goog in modern Fully synthetic oil at reducing friction the engine just would not bed in.
Old 27 December 2010, 07:49 PM
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RCM do
Old 27 December 2010, 07:51 PM
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Do as your engine builder says to do. They built my 2.1 stroker and believe me its worth the wait.
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Originally Posted by F1 CJE UK
RCM do
Every body does it differently as there is no real laid in stone way of doing it,but i would have to say i wouldn't use full syn for first fire up and run as it can cause the rings to not bed in properly.
Old 27 December 2010, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by F1 CJE UK
RCM do
Maybe their tolerances are so good that bedding in is not really necessary so they feel they can use fully synthetic oils which contain polymers.

As a point of interest about fully synthetic oils. You can not use car fully in motorcycles. The reason being is they use a wet clutch (well most) and these polymers would stick to the clutch plates causing them to slip because of the lack of friction caused. Motorcycle fully is different from car fully.

Personally i would not feel comfortable with anything less than semi in my engine because of the turbo.
Old 27 December 2010, 08:00 PM
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why did you chose a 2.2 from ET over there 2.1?
Old 29 December 2010, 05:40 PM
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i got told the 2.2 is better for what i want ie torque
Old 29 December 2010, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by stef28-2008
i got told the 2.2 is better for what i want ie torque
2.5 is torque, bags of it.
Old 29 December 2010, 06:23 PM
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woz gona get it but got told they not as strong as the 2.2


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