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Old 27 October 2010, 06:54 PM
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1st time on here so be gentle!!
got myself an impreza, took most of engine apart to clean up/make shiny!!

put all back together, but something major wrong

filling up water 1st, alot going in, too much infact?? wheres it all going?
looked under car nothing< called my uncle and he came round.
he blew down tank thing on side of inlet manifold and water (yes water) came out oil filler??

he said what you done? dunno lol,, he undone oil drain plug and water flew out< i`d filled up the whole engine with water

any ideas what i have done?? and most importantly have i totally messed it up?? can it be rectified??

HELP!!
Old 27 October 2010, 07:16 PM
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Oh, blimey. Well, assuming this isn't some sort of troll, about the only advice you can be given is to get it looked at by a dealer or specialist as a matter of some urgency, and do not, under any circumstances, try to start it. If you didn't accidentally fill the engine with water via the oil filler, about the only way this scenario could occur if you filled the cooling system properly is if you have a majorly failed head gasket.

When you say you "took most of engine apart" to make it clean and shiny, exactly how far did you disassemble it?

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Old 27 October 2010, 07:20 PM
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Everybody like gentle on the first time lol. Firstly did you start the car with it full of water if no then dont. Not exactly sure what you have done but it needs the issue sorting why thats happening then flush the engine before filling with oil again. I have to say its not good. what exactly did you strip off
Old 27 October 2010, 07:22 PM
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could you have crossed an oil hose with a water hose
Old 27 October 2010, 07:27 PM
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hello, i took off intercooler, most of the pipes (to check they not cracked/split) water tank filler. thats what i was thinking now? maybe put waterpipe on wrong connection? is this possible?
Old 27 October 2010, 07:29 PM
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if i did put wrong pipe on wrong connection and found it could i put cheap oil in and run it for while then flush it that way?
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splitpin what do you mean troll??
Old 27 October 2010, 08:17 PM
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have not run the car sinced drained water/oil the 1st time before pulling apart, hoping its wrong pipe on somewhere.
Old 27 October 2010, 08:53 PM
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sounds like uve got a water pipe and a oil breather mixed up mate
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splitpin what do you mean troll??
Look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29. We do have our fair share of them round here.

It is difficult to imagine how you could have transposed an oil and water pipe, although given that it's now clear you haven't got as far as taking the heads off (something I was wondering about), it seems the likeliest legitimate explanation. About the only possible opportunity for this would be in the head breathers/coolant header tank area, but even this doesn't seem especially likely given that the pipes are specifically shaped and are almost impossible to put on wrong. Hence the suspicion that you're having a giraffe.

Given that you haven't told us what model year of car you have, it is difficult to visualise what you might have done wrong. And seeing as you don't seem to be sure yourself, as per my original post, the best advice right now remains to get someone who knows what they are doing to assess the condition of the engine and what the causal process for the damage was.

The problem with you sitting here reading posts on an online forum is that the only thing we have to go on is what you've told us, and there's no guarantee that even that is correct. And, all the while, your engine internals are sitting there having been exposed to copious amounts of water, which, even leaving aside the risk of hydro-lock, will eventually start to rust the internals. Rusted up bearing surfaces, for one, don't work very well.

Bottom line is that you need experienced first hand help, and urgently. Nothing anyone here can tell you is going to change that, and all the while you're reading this, your engine is potentially deteriorating.
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Old 28 October 2010, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Splitpin
Look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29. We do have our fair share of them round here.

It is difficult to imagine how you could have transposed an oil and water pipe, although given that it's now clear you haven't got as far as taking the heads off (something I was wondering about), it seems the likeliest legitimate explanation. About the only possible opportunity for this would be in the head breathers/coolant header tank area, but even this doesn't seem especially likely given that the pipes are specifically shaped and are almost impossible to put on wrong. Hence the suspicion that you're having a giraffe.

Given that you haven't told us what model year of car you have, it is difficult to visualise what you might have done wrong. And seeing as you don't seem to be sure yourself, as per my original post, the best advice right now remains to get someone who knows what they are doing to assess the condition of the engine and what the causal process for the damage was.

The problem with you sitting here reading posts on an online forum is that the only thing we have to go on is what you've told us, and there's no guarantee that even that is correct. And, all the while, your engine internals are sitting there having been exposed to copious amounts of water, which, even leaving aside the risk of hydro-lock, will eventually start to rust the internals. Rusted up bearing surfaces, for one, don't work very well.

Bottom line is that you need experienced first hand help, and urgently. Nothing anyone here can tell you is going to change that, and all the while you're reading this, your engine is potentially deteriorating.

Couldnt agree more. get it sorted asap
Old 28 October 2010, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Splitpin
Look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29. We do have our fair share of them round here.

It is difficult to imagine how you could have transposed an oil and water pipe, although given that it's now clear you haven't got as far as taking the heads off (something I was wondering about), it seems the likeliest legitimate explanation. About the only possible opportunity for this would be in the head breathers/coolant header tank area, but even this doesn't seem especially likely given that the pipes are specifically shaped and are almost impossible to put on wrong. Hence the suspicion that you're having a giraffe.

Given that you haven't told us what model year of car you have, it is difficult to visualise what you might have done wrong. And seeing as you don't seem to be sure yourself, as per my original post, the best advice right now remains to get someone who knows what they are doing to assess the condition of the engine and what the causal process for the damage was.

The problem with you sitting here reading posts on an online forum is that the only thing we have to go on is what you've told us, and there's no guarantee that even that is correct. And, all the while, your engine internals are sitting there having been exposed to copious amounts of water, which, even leaving aside the risk of hydro-lock, will eventually start to rust the internals. Rusted up bearing surfaces, for one, don't work very well.

Bottom line is that you need experienced first hand help, and urgently. Nothing anyone here can tell you is going to change that, and all the while you're reading this, your engine is potentially deteriorating.
oooh!
had a look this morning and yes sure enough put the centre pipe running through manifold onto rocker breather, the other (running behind manifold nearest turbo) on bottom connection for water tank
ok so sorted that out, tried to get as much water out of sumpo as possible, undone oil filter took that off, just oil in there.
filled with water, oil and gave her a few turns, not starting, had a look under engine water seeping out of centre section of exhaust maifold so undone and left it like that and gave her some more turns, spluttered into life!!
put exhaust manifold back how it was.
run a little more but its very lumpy at any revs.
not going to try anymore till do another oil change.
why do you think its running lumpy could it take a long while before clearing itself??
splitpin> your not sure i could of done this? well it was a very easy mistake stupid i know but so simple, >Hence the suspicion that you're having a giraffe.??? NO lol not avin a giraffe as you put it.
Old 28 October 2010, 02:52 PM
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change the oil and water again after it run for 20 mins standing. use a decent oil and make sure you change the filter.
Old 28 October 2010, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JAutos
change the oil and water again after it run for 20 mins standing. use a decent oil and make sure you change the filter.
run it for 20 further mins then change oil? or change oil now and run for 20 mins? thanx for advice by the way.
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well as you say you've drained the water out the engine fill with fresh oil and leave running to let the engine re coat in oil let it get up to temperature. then drian the oil, Using an engine flush with the oil may help also. Then new oil filter and a good quality oil in it and hopefully you'll be ok




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