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Old 20 January 2010, 07:53 PM
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Been pricing up some exhaust wrap, DEI, Thermotec etc and I've spotted that Mark @ Lateral has some stuff for about half the price of these. Anybody used it and is it any good

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Old 21 January 2010, 09:38 AM
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ive not but i did buy some dei of a guy on here, great price and fantastic service,, try doing a search for a user called Harvey
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Originally Posted by The_Dark_Avenger
ive not but i did buy some dei of a guy on here, great price and fantastic service,, try doing a search for a user called Harvey
Cheers mate, Mark is local so I'll pay him a visit and drink his coffee
Old 21 January 2010, 02:00 PM
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Cheers mate, Mark is local so I'll pay him a visit and drink his coffee
i would be interested to find out the answer to your question too.as dei is quite expensive but i do understand its got to be good stuff so if u do go for the lateral stuff then pls let me know if its any good,especially as its alot cheaper..
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I mechanic I trust (ex-Zen) rates the stuff so I'm going to get it. Just been round but he wasn't in. I'll call him later
Old 21 January 2010, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JonMc
I mechanic I trust (ex-Zen) rates the stuff so I'm going to get it. Just been round but he wasn't in. I'll call him later
nice one mate,let me know of the quality and it be nice if u could pm me the prices,i would need enough to wrap oe headers and uppipe.
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nice one mate,let me know of the quality and it be nice if u could pm me the prices,i would need enough to wrap oe headers and uppipe.

One roll should be enough (aim for 4' of wrap per 1' of pipe), this is what it costs

Lateral Performance Ltd| Home | Exhaust Subaru Impreza | Exhaust Wrap - 50' x 2'' Roll
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spoke to harvey and he can supply the dei for not much extra so not sure which one i will go with yet(seen the lateral prices on website).
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Originally Posted by JonMc
One roll should be enough (aim for 4' of wrap per 1' of pipe), this is what it costs

Lateral Performance Ltd| Home | Exhaust Subaru Impreza | Exhaust Wrap - 50' x 2'' Roll
thanks alot.
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I don't know anybody who does more exhaust wrapping than myself. I have tried everything on the market and only use DEI. Its thermal properties are very good. It is relatively easy to use and because it has stitching down the side it is easy to judge the overlap which in turn makes it relatively economic in use. There is plenty stuff out there much cheaper but when I wrap something I want to do it properly and I don't want to have to rewrap it in 12 months time.
I don't use ties because they are expensive. I prefer to use tie wire with lock wire pliers. I have 50 foot and 100 foot x 2" rolls in stock for my own use and I sell these on at £55 per 50 foot roll. Delivery £8.50 per roll regardless of whether it is 50 foot or 100 foot. We also have 1" wide rolls for fiddly operations.
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Originally Posted by harvey
I don't know anybody who does more exhaust wrapping than myself. I have tried everything on the market and only use DEI. Its thermal properties are very good. It is relatively easy to use and because it has stitching down the side it is easy to judge the overlap which in turn makes it relatively economic in use. There is plenty stuff out there much cheaper but when I wrap something I want to do it properly and I don't want to have to rewrap it in 12 months time.
I don't use ties because they are expensive. I prefer to use tie wire with lock wire pliers. I have 50 foot and 100 foot x 2" rolls in stock for my own use and I sell these on at £55 per 50 foot roll. Delivery £8.50 per roll regardless of whether it is 50 foot or 100 foot. We also have 1" wide rolls for fiddly operations.
i agree,ive decided to go with u on this one harvey,and like i said i will be in touch soon,im wrapping oe headers and uppipe,would this require the 2" or the 1"? and im assuming the 50ft would easily be enough for the job?do u stock the different colours? soon as ive got a few things out of the way u will have a pm regarding my order!thanks alot mate.
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Use the 2" (unless you want to take a week and double the material doing the job )
Always use widest you can, suitable for the application. The 1" is only for fiddly jobs.
Done properly, O/E headers and uppipe take 80% of a 50 foot roll. Follow the stitching and every couple of turns examine for misses/skips until you are proficient.
I don't know about different colours other than black or buff. I mainly use buff but may have some black too. There are also a few of rolls of a new product called DEI lava wool. They make great claims for it but I have yet to try it and I am sceptical. If anyone has used this let me have your thoughts.
Somewhere I have a guide to exhaust wrapping so I will see if I can find it and post it on to you.
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Originally Posted by harvey
Use the 2" (unless you want to take a week and double the material doing the job )
Always use widest you can, suitable for the application. The 1" is only for fiddly jobs.
Done properly, O/E headers and uppipe take 80% of a 50 foot roll. Follow the stitching and every couple of turns examine for misses/skips until you are proficient.
I don't know about different colours other than black or buff. I mainly use buff but may have some black too. There are also a few of rolls of a new product called DEI lava wool. They make great claims for it but I have yet to try it and I am sceptical. If anyone has used this let me have your thoughts.
Somewhere I have a guide to exhaust wrapping so I will see if I can find it and post it on to you.
when i come to order i would like it in black if poss,if u could find a guide that would be great......speak 2 u soon,thanks again.
Old 22 January 2010, 05:30 PM
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Heat wrapping is not difficult if you follow these instructions but you cannot expect to achieve a professional standard on your first heat wrap operation unless you follow these instructions exactly.
Because of the cost of heat wrap ties I only use stainless steel tie wire and generally the more ties the better the job.
To use tie wire it is best to have a set of tie wire pliers/ lock wire pliers which makes twisting the tie wire that much easier.

The DEI heat wrap has a stitching down each side to show the amount of overlap required and you should follow the overlap guide stitching where possible.
The wrap should be applied damp but not wet. You can use a house plant leaf sprayer or any other water aerosol/spray to dampen the wrap or set the tap to a very fine trickle and run the wrap through the trickle quite quickly. In a few minutes the water will have spread evenly throughout the fabric to dampen it. The wrap must not be soaking wet because the impregnated chemicals run out.
Wrap from the bottom to the top with the appropriate overlay.
Keep the wrap as tight as possible.
Remember that the wrap on the outside of a bend requires more material and therefore the corresponding inside of the bend will have big overlaps and on a tight bend this can be almost 100%.
Do not cut the wrap in to short lengths but try to apply in continuous lengths and certainly 15 feet at a time.
The rolls come in 50 foot by 2" .
A 3" open neck downpipe wll generally take three quarters of a roll of wrap done properly.
Remember. Keep it tight.
Tie at the end and then every 3 or 4 inches but on curves or corners you can increase the number of ties.
The tie must be applied while the wrap is still damp.
Cut off any strands and loose ends.
When put on the car first there will be a lot of moisture released from the wrap. Do not be alarmed.
On damp and humid days the wrap will absorb moisture so again there will be a lot of steam.
It is quite normal for the wrap to smell for three weeks after applying as it dries through thoroughly.
Happy wrapping.
If you need further assistance please do not hesitate to contact me.
Regards,
Harvey Smith.
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thanks harvey.
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No black in stock but I do have it on order.
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You will need the pliers as well to ensure that you get a good finish. Something like this would do the job, but I'm sure you could get better pliers if you tried machine mart or tool station etc.

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Just get some wire then, I'll be getting some pliers as I have used them in the past and I'm sure I will again in the future
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Wasn't planning on getting some.

I will have a polished diff guard up for grabs when I get round to removing the brackets from under the car though
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I'll let you know, I might even consider it if I have any cash left after my next round of upgrades
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Sounds good, I'll take them. I get in touch about getting them off you, although there's no rush
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Just PM him

Don't worry about the hijack, my thread anyway
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I will throw in enough wire for a header set when you order a roll of wrap.
The wrap is £55. Delivery is £8.50. Paypal and email address is harveysmith1@btopenworld.com
I also have two rolls of Lava Rock which apparently is the new type of wrap from DEI and I can sell these two rolls at £67.50 each. All rolls are 2" x 50 foot unless otherwise stated.
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