K&N Apollo. Any good?
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Hey guys, I'm new to the site and just look over random posts. I've got a 06 wrx and was thinking of putting on a K&N typhoon. The only mods I've done is an Afterburner back box and center section. Is this a good idea getting an induction kit or shall I wait till I get the remap etc done. thanks
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Sound advice above about not fitting one unless needed.
I decided to fit one to my MY 98 (had to adapt it to fit from a later model). I have a FMIC fitted so no panel filter plus I have a blanked off DV. I had a K&N cone filter and the sound was good when I was in the mood, but as I'm old enough to have bought petrol in Shillings, I also wanted something quieter :-)
Fitting the Apollo made it quieter but still left a satisfying amount of noise, plus it gives a cold air feed from the wing vent under the indicator.
FWIW, the Apollo seems a well made piece of kit - not overly cheap but then that's not why you drive a Scube
I decided to fit one to my MY 98 (had to adapt it to fit from a later model). I have a FMIC fitted so no panel filter plus I have a blanked off DV. I had a K&N cone filter and the sound was good when I was in the mood, but as I'm old enough to have bought petrol in Shillings, I also wanted something quieter :-)
Fitting the Apollo made it quieter but still left a satisfying amount of noise, plus it gives a cold air feed from the wing vent under the indicator.
FWIW, the Apollo seems a well made piece of kit - not overly cheap but then that's not why you drive a Scube
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I looked into these and read on the K+N site that they are good for 350HP. The OE STI panel filter is good for that too, so not worth doing unless for other reasons the OE airbox has to go. But even then if you are fitting a FMIC for example a 350HP filter isn't exactly future proof.
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I have a K&N apollo on my 2006 2.5 wrx, the car has been mapped with it on which does make a difference, while driving the intake temps are only 1 deg C above ambient temps with the cold air feed in the front fog and with the standard air box it was 4 or 5 deg C on average above ambient temp. Plus i love the sound it makes
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Do you know why the car appears to "drive better"? Is it because the presence of the induction kit has altered the mass airflow scaling? Have you checked to see whether your on-boost mixtures have altered measurably? Have you checked for the presence of any detonation?
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What's with the caps? I asked you some straight and straightforward questions because, aside from anything else, any answers you had might help other people - and might just help you as well.
It may be better than a cone under the bonnet sucking hot air in, yes, but the question is whether any differences you've noticed over the standard induction tract are either placebo effect or skewed mixtures.
Given the standard air tract isn't significantly restrictive in the first place, I would be a bit interested to find out why the car appears to "drive better". As above, are you monitoring mixture or det?
It may be better than a cone under the bonnet sucking hot air in, yes, but the question is whether any differences you've noticed over the standard induction tract are either placebo effect or skewed mixtures.
Given the standard air tract isn't significantly restrictive in the first place, I would be a bit interested to find out why the car appears to "drive better". As above, are you monitoring mixture or det?
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What's with the caps? I asked you some straight and straightforward questions because, aside from anything else, any answers you had might help other people - and might just help you as well.
It may be better than a cone under the bonnet sucking hot air in, yes, but the question is whether any differences you've noticed over the standard induction tract are either placebo effect or skewed mixtures.
Given the standard air tract isn't significantly restrictive in the first place, I would be a bit interested to find out why the car appears to "drive better". As above, are you monitoring mixture or det?
It may be better than a cone under the bonnet sucking hot air in, yes, but the question is whether any differences you've noticed over the standard induction tract are either placebo effect or skewed mixtures.
Given the standard air tract isn't significantly restrictive in the first place, I would be a bit interested to find out why the car appears to "drive better". As above, are you monitoring mixture or det?
I fitted my Apollo after JGM had mapped it with the cone K&N fitted. So therefore it does need a remap - no question !.
But the performance felt about the same and the noise reduction was what I was looking for as a result. I have an Apexi with Commander so have checked that knock is not an issue and has not increased.
I have no measured proof, but I feel that there are plus and minus points. The minus points would be a smaller size filter on the Apollo from the K&N cone I did have fitted along with a longer intake pipe (into the wing etc.). The plus points would be a colder air charge along with some ram effect by fitting the end of the intake to the vent in the wing. In my mind, I tend to feel that they have evened out.
Of course the proof would be another RR session with a remap. No doubt I'll be getting around to another remap with other possiblr mods in 2010
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