Notices

Emission MOT fail

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11 September 2009, 12:07 PM
  #1  
gjc37
Scooby Newbie
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
gjc37's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Emission MOT fail

I am new to the Subaru world my 98 Terzo failed it MOT on
1 Carbon Monoxide excessive 2 nd fast ilde.
2 Exhaust emissions Lamba reading outside specified limits.

I have tested the 3 wire lamba sensor on the downpipe next to the turbo.
Black wire Ground Ok
Grey wire 12v (heater wire)?
Grey wire .228v at idle goes to .334v at around 4K RPM and back to .228v at idle the volts do not seem to cycle. I think they should cycle between (.2v and .9v) is this a duff sensor?

Is there another sensor fitted?

The garage told me that the cat is not fitted! should the other cat be able to cope with emissions,the car is fitted with a de cat downpipe or do I need to fit a new downpipe with a cat fitted to pass the MOT.
Old 11 September 2009, 12:27 PM
  #2  
joey_turbo
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (26)
 
joey_turbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Essex
Posts: 6,547
Received 9 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

So you do have a centre cat?
Thats normally enough once its up to temp. The lambda sensor you used is the only one on your model.
Old 11 September 2009, 12:33 PM
  #3  
gjc37
Scooby Newbie
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
gjc37's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

thanks for the quick response I will check is it located at the front of the engine I am new to Subarus from VWs.
Old 11 September 2009, 12:49 PM
  #4  
joey_turbo
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (26)
 
joey_turbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Essex
Posts: 6,547
Received 9 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

No, look from underneathe the car. The centre pipe is the one that joins onto the downpipe and then the backbox. Check it actually has a cat, you should be able to tell from the Subaru stamped heatshield.
Old 11 September 2009, 01:05 PM
  #5  
gjc37
Scooby Newbie
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
gjc37's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Checked I have a long pipe fitted from the downpipe to the back box no heatshield no cat!
Old 11 September 2009, 02:44 PM
  #6  
joey_turbo
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (26)
 
joey_turbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Essex
Posts: 6,547
Received 9 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

There's your problem.
Check ebay, as you don't really get the centre cats come up much on here. Out something in the wanted section with your location also, someone might loan you one.
Old 11 September 2009, 03:06 PM
  #7  
joz8968
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (13)
 
joz8968's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Leicester
Posts: 23,761
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

OP you're also right about the O2 sensor though... A warm engine at steady idle should cause it to continually cycle between 0 and 0.9V! Yours does seem like it's knackered and won't help with the CO tests (as well as the absence of the cat of course).

Last edited by joz8968; 11 September 2009 at 03:38 PM.
Old 11 September 2009, 03:34 PM
  #8  
Aztec Performance Ltd
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (234)
 
Aztec Performance Ltd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Over 500ft/lbs of torque @ just 1.1bar
Posts: 14,406
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

We have Lambda sensors in stock for your model if it turns out you need one
Old 11 September 2009, 03:39 PM
  #9  
N_Scooby
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
N_Scooby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: www.dsoc.co.nr
Posts: 979
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

The cat in the downpipe is the main one (or not if its been removed). Imports only had the one cat there - no cat in the centre section (just a resonator box). UK specs had the 2 cats - not sure if the centre cat is enough to pass an MOT (others who have tried it will be better informed than us Import drivers )
Old 11 September 2009, 03:59 PM
  #10  
joz8968
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (13)
 
joz8968's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Leicester
Posts: 23,761
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

ZEN have their own catted centre and back box to swap out customer's full decat systems, for quickness (i.e. no need to remove the customer's downpipe as well).

I've used this service of theirs and their system has got my car through its last 2 MOTs!

So assuming all else is good with the motor's running, then just a centre cat should be okay to get you through...

Last edited by joz8968; 11 September 2009 at 04:01 PM.
Old 21 September 2009, 09:16 PM
  #11  
gjc37
Scooby Newbie
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
gjc37's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Got a cat from a member on here when the pipe was delivered the cat was knocked out of the centre pipe (thanks for ripping me off) got another one off E Bay (local to me) fitted the pipe and cat and it Passed the MOT.
Old 21 September 2009, 09:26 PM
  #12  
just123
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
just123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 454
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by gjc37
Got a cat from a member on here when the pipe was delivered the cat was knocked out of the centre pipe (thanks for ripping me off) got another one off E Bay (local to me) fitted the pipe and cat and it Passed the MOT.
The member on here more than likely sent the centre pipe in good faith, Never a good idea to send a 2nd hand cat in the post almost certainly get damaged the cat is very brittle
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
KAS35RSTI
Subaru
27
04 November 2021 07:12 PM
Abx
Subaru
22
09 January 2016 05:42 PM
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
28
28 December 2015 11:07 PM
Ganz1983
Subaru
5
02 October 2015 09:22 AM
shorty87
Other Marques
0
25 September 2015 08:52 PM



Quick Reply: Emission MOT fail



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:05 AM.