converting a 2L-2.5L
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converting a 2L-2.5L
hi,
is it possible to convert a 2L to a 2.5L, or are the cylinder sleves different castings totaly?
thanks phil.
is it possible to convert a 2L to a 2.5L, or are the cylinder sleves different castings totaly?
thanks phil.
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Phil i actually thought you already had a 2.5 CDB? From the last conversation a while back with Daz Davies.
In regards to the castings yes they are different internally as the liners are a larger diameter giving you more of a bore than a 2.0. And the 2.5 is already a rear thrust crank where as the 2.0 is a centre thrust again the 2.0 can be machines to accept the rear thrust. at a cost of usually 150+.
You will find that the blocks are the same size though allowing direct fitment in place of the 2.0 litre and the 2.0 litre heads bolting directly to the 2.5 although it is advisable to have these heads combustion chambers ported slightly.
In regards to the castings yes they are different internally as the liners are a larger diameter giving you more of a bore than a 2.0. And the 2.5 is already a rear thrust crank where as the 2.0 is a centre thrust again the 2.0 can be machines to accept the rear thrust. at a cost of usually 150+.
You will find that the blocks are the same size though allowing direct fitment in place of the 2.0 litre and the 2.0 litre heads bolting directly to the 2.5 although it is advisable to have these heads combustion chambers ported slightly.
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With resleeving any block the sleeves are devorced from the block itself and only stay in postion through the pressure they exsert. So it's known for the sleeves to move and cause head gasket failures and even crack due to fractures sustained from the proceedure of pressing the sleeves into the block to start with. So a standard cast closed deck block would be a safer option over a resleeved block and if you wish to build a large displacement engine capable producing over 500 bhp I'd choose a stroked EJ22T over a resleeved 2 or 2.5 litre.
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thanks for the answers, STI_BALY i think you may be confusing my project rs200 with the other impreza rs200 that had a 2.5 conversion, sorry, although you have helped me many times in the past.
how much can a cylinder be bored out by?
is it enough to make it a 2.2 or is a 2.2 a different engine again?
and whats the stroked bit?
sorry for the questions but ive never really looked into anything other than the 2.0 bored .5 over.
how much can a cylinder be bored out by?
is it enough to make it a 2.2 or is a 2.2 a different engine again?
and whats the stroked bit?
sorry for the questions but ive never really looked into anything other than the 2.0 bored .5 over.
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thanks for the answers, STI_BALY i think you may be confusing my project rs200 with the other impreza rs200 that had a 2.5 conversion, sorry, although you have helped me many times in the past.
how much can a cylinder be bored out by?
is it enough to make it a 2.2 or is a 2.2 a different engine again?
and whats the stroked bit?
sorry for the questions but ive never really looked into anything other than the 2.0 bored .5 over.
how much can a cylinder be bored out by?
is it enough to make it a 2.2 or is a 2.2 a different engine again?
and whats the stroked bit?
sorry for the questions but ive never really looked into anything other than the 2.0 bored .5 over.
The EJ22T & EJ22G CDB uses a 75mm stroke crank as standard so it's possible to use a longer 79mm crank from the 2.5 litre EJ257 block with standard length rods and shorter stroker pistons to increase the displacement to 2.33 litres. A 1mm over bored stroked EJ22T has a final displacement of 2.4 litres but is a stronger engine than the 2457cc EJ257 block with only slightly less displacement but capable of handling 500+ bhp using the correct internals.
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i see now, as i doubt ill find a 2.2 ill utilise the 2L cdb i have,
right, so the 2.5 crank is ok to fit in the 2L cdb thats been machined to fit the end thrust bearing? and you can either go with shorter rods or shorter stroker pistons for bigger combustion space?
the only thing different about the 2.5 crank to a 2L crank is the 2.5 crank has a 79mm stroke, which is longer than the 2L crank?
right, so the 2.5 crank is ok to fit in the 2L cdb thats been machined to fit the end thrust bearing? and you can either go with shorter rods or shorter stroker pistons for bigger combustion space?
the only thing different about the 2.5 crank to a 2L crank is the 2.5 crank has a 79mm stroke, which is longer than the 2L crank?
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