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Old 06 March 2009, 08:54 PM
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hi all i have got a 97 uk wagon the problem is that between 2000 and 3000 revs the car has got a hesitation surging problem if you are on a light throttle in between this rev range the car feels like it is surging any ideas would be great thanks
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Hi, did you manage to resolve this as I have a very similar problem.

So far I've replaced the plugs and leads which didn't help. I've also removed the dump valve which seems to have helped a bit but still not fixed it.

My next thoughts are the MAF, coilpack or lambda - if you have fixed it I'd be keen to find out how, or to hear any other suggestions
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Unplug the lambda sensor on the top of the downpipe under the bonnet, take it a drive and see if that helps.
Old 27 July 2009, 09:58 AM
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Thanks, that seems to have sorted it

Guess I need a new lambda sensor though.
Old 27 July 2009, 04:21 PM
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mine does the same and iv just replaced the lambda and the maf does this mean that the new lambda is knackered too
Old 27 July 2009, 04:31 PM
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Does yours run ok when you disconnect the new lambda?
Old 27 July 2009, 04:35 PM
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just away to try it, never knew about disconnecting the lambda and driving it
Old 27 July 2009, 05:03 PM
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just tried unplugging it and gave it a run, it seems to be running as it should so does that mean that my brand new lambda is faulty?
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anyone?
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yep sounds like faulty lambda just replace and see what happens.
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I don't know but perhaps you need to reset your ECU to clear a fault code left over from your previously duff sensor? It says how to do this here

https://www.scoobynet.com/general-te...af-sensor.html
Old 28 July 2009, 09:37 AM
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i tried resetting the ecu but to no avail.

means ill most likely have to fork out for another brand new sensor-great!
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Can you not take the duff one back to where you got it and ask for an exchange or refund?
Old 28 July 2009, 09:53 AM
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bought it off someone on here so ill need to send it back and wait!
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This surging quite often happens shortly after startup and is caused by going into closed loop a little be early and the mixture going weak-rich-weak-rich when it shouldn't be going too weak on a cold engine. Once warmer it tends to be better again.

Also the lambda sensor works less well/slower when it is cold so have you checked you get 12 and 0 V on the heater wires?
Old 28 July 2009, 10:47 PM
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it does it when warm aswell.

is the heater wires the white ones?
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iv now fitted another new lambda and its still doing it.

i checked the voltage accross the two white wires which i think are the heater wires and got 14v.

any one got any other suggestions coz its really getting on my **** now
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Can you not just leave the lambda unplugged? That's what I'm doing for now.
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I'm not saying you should, but I run my car with the lambda unplugged for 3 months with no issues.
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