header advice please!
02 February 2009, 08:12 PM
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header advice please!
hi all thinking of my next steps for mods after ive had my simtek fitted (wed) seen lots of headers about whats the peoples choice ? heard any good/bad comments
many thanks
nath
many thanks
nath
02 February 2009, 08:57 PM
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Avoid flexy jointed items, and two-bolt manifold to up-pipe version.
AFAIK most of them come out of the same factory, with different "names" on them.
I used Mark at Lateral Performance as he did the best "package" price at the time. He's a helpfull bloke if you need advice.
HTH
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AFAIK most of them come out of the same factory, with different "names" on them.
I used Mark at Lateral Performance as he did the best "package" price at the time. He's a helpfull bloke if you need advice.
HTH
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02 February 2009, 09:56 PM
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You could also try Harvey. Check out the dealers thread in the market place section here on Scoobynet for his details.
As mentioned you want the 3 bolt type and if you have the cash splash it on getting the up-pipe and headers ceramic coated
. Tracktive Solutions and TSL do the slightly unequal length tubular headers with 3 bolt up-pipe ceramic coated for approx £830 
but it is 
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As mentioned you want the 3 bolt type and if you have the cash splash it on getting the up-pipe and headers ceramic coated
. Tracktive Solutions and TSL do the slightly unequal length tubular headers with 3 bolt up-pipe ceramic coated for approx £830 but it is .
02 February 2009, 10:34 PM
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Harvey claims a better "bang per buck", but I'm biased !
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P.S. Oi, Nath you coming to a WYIOC meet anytime soon ?
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P.S. Oi, Nath you coming to a WYIOC meet anytime soon ?
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03 February 2009, 05:32 PM
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I have the Tracktive GT Spec II replicas,ceramic coated. Dog's dangly bits thery are 
Look in my scooby for a crap photo of it, also showing the lovely coolant leakage before i got my new rad as well last week! LOL.
Look in my scooby for a crap photo of it, also showing the lovely coolant leakage before i got my new rad as well last week! LOL.
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LOL
I've just got back !
Jap night at Squires in Sherburn off the old A1...
Scooby do'nut time !
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P.S. See WYIOC section on S'net as the mid-month is at The Ship Inn Mirfield around the 12th of feb.
I've just got back !
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04 February 2009, 09:41 AM
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Just where did you get this price??? ABSOLUTE RUBBISH.
Ported O/E headers and matched up-pipe, purpose designed, stainless steel, slip jointed, new Subaru studs and DEI heat wrapped is £369. Overnight delivery is £12.50 or we will fit for you for £75 if required.
In performance terms, probably the best choice on all cars up to 420-430 bhp bracket.
I need to know the turbo and future power asirations at time of ordering.
I also sell GT Spec type as photographed above. Recommended for around 450 bhp and above. PRICE IS £350. Overnight delivery is £12.50 or we will fit for £75 fixed price. These can be DEI heat wrapped for £95 or I can supply a roll of wrap 50'x2" for £45 and enjoy wrapping yourself.
Everything in stock and ready to go today.
I also have a new tubular header set, small bore, £300 and another new header set and up-pipe £225 origin uncertain.
Very, very unhelpful when people post wrong prices.
Tubular ones from Lateral are £489 inc VAT, and Harveys are £514 plus wrapping....
Ported O/E headers and matched up-pipe, purpose designed, stainless steel, slip jointed, new Subaru studs and DEI heat wrapped is £369. Overnight delivery is £12.50 or we will fit for you for £75 if required.
In performance terms, probably the best choice on all cars up to 420-430 bhp bracket.
I need to know the turbo and future power asirations at time of ordering.
I also sell GT Spec type as photographed above. Recommended for around 450 bhp and above. PRICE IS £350. Overnight delivery is £12.50 or we will fit for £75 fixed price. These can be DEI heat wrapped for £95 or I can supply a roll of wrap 50'x2" for £45 and enjoy wrapping yourself.
Everything in stock and ready to go today.
I also have a new tubular header set, small bore, £300 and another new header set and up-pipe £225 origin uncertain.
Very, very unhelpful when people post wrong prices.
04 February 2009, 09:50 AM
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from a PM you sent me:
This adds up to £514
You are at the point where the decision to fit ported OE or tubular is finely balanced. If you are going to be nearer to 450 than 400 then I would lean towards the tubular headers which cost £375 plus wrapping. If you are closer to 400 then I would go with the ported OE but your best choice can only be determined when you actually know what turbo you are going to fit. Also, I have a purpose designed uppipe for the three bolt flange tubular headers if you are actually going to be in the 400s but this adds a further £139 to the tubular headers cost.
This adds up to £514
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Harvey has PM'd me, and explained things, as I mis-understood what he mean't about the up-pipe.
You do get an up-pipe with the Tubular Headers, and the £139 pipe is an additional one depending on the power your are running!
So apologise for the confusion on my part
You do get an up-pipe with the Tubular Headers, and the £139 pipe is an additional one depending on the power your are running!
So apologise for the confusion on my part
04 February 2009, 11:24 AM
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Cheers Chris. To Clarify, the current price for the tubular header set inclusive of up-pipe supplied is £350.
As most peole realise the large diameter up-pipe slugs spool badly and does not produce maximum power on mid range turbos. To improve spool, response and power on these applications, I have produced a purpose designed three bolt up-pipe. DEI wrapped complete with studs etc £139.
As most peole realise the large diameter up-pipe slugs spool badly and does not produce maximum power on mid range turbos. To improve spool, response and power on these applications, I have produced a purpose designed three bolt up-pipe. DEI wrapped complete with studs etc £139.
04 February 2009, 02:43 PM
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I have a vested interest but even on a standard car you will get quite noticable gains from properly ported headers and purpose designed up-pipe.
The normal modding sequence is a performance exhaust, full decat turbo back followed by ported headers and up-pipe.
Loads of people fitting ported headers can confirm their findings. It also holds you in good stead for future mods.
The normal modding sequence is a performance exhaust, full decat turbo back followed by ported headers and up-pipe.
Loads of people fitting ported headers can confirm their findings. It also holds you in good stead for future mods.
05 February 2009, 12:52 PM
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I had Harveys ported OEM headers,matched up pipe and de cat downpipe fitted last month and it totally transformed my car
The difference is very noticeable in performance and the all round drivability is greatly improved.Highly reccommended
The difference is very noticeable in performance and the all round drivability is greatly improved.Highly reccommended
06 February 2009, 09:42 AM
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Thanks for that.
I cannot say you will get a particular torque or BHP gain or you will spool to 1 bar 'x' RPM earlier. Every installation is different.
You will notice a difference from the driving seat immediately and after doing the turbo back exhaust, this is the next progression that will hold you in very good stead for future mods all the way past 400 bhp.
Just to add, nobody that has fitted my headers and up-pipe set has ever come back to say they could not feel a worthwhile gain.
I cannot say you will get a particular torque or BHP gain or you will spool to 1 bar 'x' RPM earlier. Every installation is different.
You will notice a difference from the driving seat immediately and after doing the turbo back exhaust, this is the next progression that will hold you in very good stead for future mods all the way past 400 bhp.
Just to add, nobody that has fitted my headers and up-pipe set has ever come back to say they could not feel a worthwhile gain.
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