Notices
General Technical
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

Rough bhp estimate

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 01:59 PM
  #1  
sean turbo2000's Avatar
sean turbo2000
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 160
Likes: 2
From: Leicester
Default Rough bhp estimate

will be adding my first mods to my 97 uk turbo wagon next week.
Roughly what sort of power should i be seeing?

std TD04
Walbro fuel pump
Decat 3" exhaust with matching downpipe
Induction kit
running around 12psi of boost

Thanks
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 02:28 PM
  #2  
scooby1doo1's Avatar
scooby1doo1
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,378
Likes: 1
From: could be near you
Default

As the car or is the car going to be mapped, if not may get a few bhp increase.
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 02:32 PM
  #3  
sean turbo2000's Avatar
sean turbo2000
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 160
Likes: 2
From: Leicester
Default

wont be mapped just yet, will be an apexi pfc going on it in a few weeks time
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 02:58 PM
  #4  
StiX's Avatar
StiX
Scooby Regular
South Wales Scoobys
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,293
Likes: 0
From: Bridgend, S Wales
Default

My UK Turbo was 230bhp before mapping, and 273bhp after with the following mods:

Ninja Sportscat downpipe
Magnex 2.5" middle and backbox
JR panel filter
3 port boost solenoid.

Mapped via Ecutek Tek3.
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 03:04 PM
  #5  
DaveBeck's Avatar
DaveBeck
412/425 of forged love
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,238
Likes: 0
From: www.surreyscoobies.com
Default

around 250 at 12psi
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2009 | 10:41 AM
  #6  
Peanuts's Avatar
Peanuts
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 8,606
Likes: 0
From: Portsmouth
Default

sorry just to clarify:
The mods are exhaust and filter.
Standard boost, standard ecu etc?

You'll be lucky to get 10 or 15bhp imo from that.
Add a dawes and raise the boost you'll get more
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2009 | 10:51 AM
  #7  
T5OLF's Avatar
T5OLF
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 3,311
Likes: 0
From: The yorkshire dales - best roads in the UK
Default

Induction kit should help lose a few BHP
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2009 | 12:40 PM
  #8  
sean turbo2000's Avatar
sean turbo2000
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 160
Likes: 2
From: Leicester
Default

So it looks like i wont be seeing much gains untill i get the PFC on then,
are there anymore worthwhile mods worth doing before i take it in to get mapped, il be happy with 280-300bhp on the pfc for now
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2009 | 12:54 PM
  #9  
Tidgy's Avatar
Tidgy
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 23,118
Likes: 150
From: Notts
Default

280bhp on a td04 is pretty rare, 260bhp/260ftlb are pretty much the average. to get near 300 you need to change the turbo and injectors to 440's ( i think the 97 are 380, but not positive on that so check else where)
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2009 | 01:05 PM
  #10  
andywiddss1's Avatar
andywiddss1
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 863
Likes: 0
From: skipton north yorkshire
Default

change the turbo to td05 u will have a better chance
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2009 | 01:08 PM
  #11  
T5OLF's Avatar
T5OLF
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 3,311
Likes: 0
From: The yorkshire dales - best roads in the UK
Default

Originally Posted by sean turbo2000
So it looks like i wont be seeing much gains untill i get the PFC on then,
are there anymore worthwhile mods worth doing before i take it in to get mapped, il be happy with 280-300bhp on the pfc for now

See my scoob for mods to get you to around 300 brake with TD05
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2009 | 01:09 PM
  #12  
Tidgy's Avatar
Tidgy
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 23,118
Likes: 150
From: Notts
Default

bit extream mods wise for 338 isn't it t5?

im running 340 with less mods than that, all be it with a vf34
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2009 | 02:37 PM
  #13  
GreenTurbo98's Avatar
GreenTurbo98
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 118
Likes: 0
Default

A small increase in boost below the fuel cut should give you ~250bhp I would guess. Remap using the TD04 on your existing 380cc injectors ~280bhp.
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2009 | 05:18 PM
  #14  
290 AND READY's Avatar
290 AND READY
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 614
Likes: 0
From: Somewhere in Glasgow
Default

Originally Posted by T5OLF
Induction kit should help lose a few BHP
Not according to Andy F as long as you have it mapped for the car

Mine got 290 from standard td04 turbo with cat up pipe
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2009 | 05:50 PM
  #15  
Tidgy's Avatar
Tidgy
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 23,118
Likes: 150
From: Notts
Default

Originally Posted by 290 AND READY
Not according to Andy F as long as you have it mapped for the car

Mine got 290 from standard td04 turbo with cat up pipe

sounds, overoptimistic tbh, was thata delta dash reading by any chance?

although its not impossible, tis very rare indeed
Reply
Old Jan 18, 2009 | 10:14 AM
  #16  
joz8968's Avatar
joz8968
Scooby Regular
15 Year Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 23,764
Likes: 9
From: Leicester
Default

I'd personally get a decent 2nd hand TD05H 16G for about a £100 but 'splash out' on a pukka set of flow-matched 550cc injectors from Mark at Lateral.

Then, with the PFC mapped at approx c.1.35bar, 320-330bhp with similar torque! And, importantly, just below the gearbox stress threshold!... Enjoy.
Reply
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 11:06 PM
  #17  
help2003's Avatar
help2003
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,171
Likes: 0
From: york
Default

I got the car and it was running 269bhp, since then i have installed a full 3" decat, and got ride of the blitz air filter and placed a standard one in, got my hands on a vf23 cheap, and been speaking to Andy F and JGM and they have both said the standard air filter is better, unless your going for big numbers,

I asked them both what would i be seeing after i install the new vf23 and fuel pump, and remap, and got told by both 320 to 330bhp on my standard injectors, which i will be very happy with, dont want to go any higher and blow the gearbox.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Benji554
Wanted
3
Jun 14, 2016 11:19 PM
Abx
Subaru
22
Jan 9, 2016 05:42 PM
InTurbo
Other Marques
20
Oct 8, 2015 08:59 PM
Ganz1983
Subaru
5
Oct 2, 2015 09:22 AM




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:46 AM.