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Old 24 December 2008, 07:55 PM
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Default Xmas ( technical ) quiz !

If you like a challenge....

Have a look in View my Scoob, please !

Take a look at my BHP /Torque and AFR/boost printouts from the last RR day !

Then tell me what's wrong !



Merry Crimbo !

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Old 24 December 2008, 08:05 PM
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loadsa lag, and only goes up to about 5k?
Old 24 December 2008, 08:16 PM
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Just a guess...

You're making max power by c.4,800rpm then it seems to drop away sharply? Surely power should peak, or at least be maintained, to at least about 6,000rpm no? Is it a diesel? lol

Plus, you haven't exactly got a flat torque curve

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Old 24 December 2008, 08:30 PM
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run aborted?....knocking?.....too lean?

late boost....boost leak?
Old 24 December 2008, 09:08 PM
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It's weird how the power and torque curves follow so closely.

Looking at your boost and AFR curves, I think it might have overboosted and hit fuel cut?
Old 24 December 2008, 09:08 PM
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Good so far, sponners is closest !

LOL

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Old 24 December 2008, 09:29 PM
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At 4,200-4,600rpm, the A/F is at low MAP pressure - is this something to do with running lean at this part of the rev range, therefore boost cut, hence the low MAP reading?

If this is right, I'll be well annoyed, as this was my very first thought lol

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Old 25 December 2008, 01:34 PM
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Will let this run until Boxing Day...

Have fun !

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Old 25 December 2008, 03:11 PM
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lol How to keep a bunch of idiots in suspense! lol
Old 25 December 2008, 03:23 PM
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No ! It's meant as a bit of fun, I know the answer, but that's cheating...

LOL

dunx

P.S. No boost cut, as it reaches 1.6 bar comfortably !
Old 25 December 2008, 04:43 PM
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Er fuel pressure dropped?
Old 25 December 2008, 05:03 PM
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engine dumped it's bits all over the place
Old 25 December 2008, 05:06 PM
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No Defi's say 3.5 bar differential, so relax !


And it's still running... Fizz

LOL

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Old 25 December 2008, 06:22 PM
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I think reason why power and torque seem to follow is because run was aborted, by the quiz reason....
AFR seem reasonably ok until boost falls. There is a momentary regain of boost before it falls again.
Did the BOV fail and when boost fell it started to close again but by then run was already aborted by you/techincan? Or is it same but a hose sprang a leak but started to close up but by then....
As I know fuel was ok and engine is still in one piece
Old 25 December 2008, 07:03 PM
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Its not running on V-power so caused det?

Hose burst?


You cant drive (even on a rolling road)

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Old 25 December 2008, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sponners
run aborted?....knocking?.....too lean?

late boost....boost leak?
Split boost pipe?

Tony
Old 25 December 2008, 07:16 PM
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Almost always run on V-Power + octane booster !

The run was "set" to stop at 5k rpm as I suspected a fault !

I wasn't even in the dyno cell at the time, so I'm not to blame.... however it is true that I can't drive

LOL

dunx

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Old 25 December 2008, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by dunx
...The run was "set" to stop at 5k rpm as I suspected a fault...
Is this the answer then?
Old 25 December 2008, 08:46 PM
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Oh ! what the hell...

At 4800 rpm the AFR spikes vertical !

A couple of hundred more would have melted a piston !

The answer is....










Fitted a bigger turbo, but hadn't got to a mapper, so was just checking things out !

Glad I didn't go over 4500 rpm !

Merry Xmas !

And thanks to all for taking part, hope this filled a little of your day !

dunx
Old 25 December 2008, 09:59 PM
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Is it the graph is fake? lol
Old 26 December 2008, 12:17 AM
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no fake
Old 26 December 2008, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dunx
Almost always run on V-Power + octane booster !

The run was "set" to stop at 5k rpm as I suspected a fault !

I wasn't even in the dyno cell at the time, so I'm not to blame.... however it is true that I can't drive

LOL

dunx


i demand half credits. lol
Old 26 December 2008, 05:43 PM
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so I COULD have been right
Old 26 December 2008, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by joz8968
You're making max power by c.4,800rpm then it seems to drop away sharply?
Plus, I wasn't exactly a million miles off (it was a bit tenuous for people to guess that a turbo had been changed )

Or am I talking cr@p?
Old 26 December 2008, 09:10 PM
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I don't get it, the afr rushes up at just the revs where the run was aborted.
Boost rised evenly with good afr, it only leans out when boost falls, doesn't it?
Old 26 December 2008, 09:59 PM
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Tenuous, but then it was a quiz....

HA ha ha

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Old 26 December 2008, 10:27 PM
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Looks like a good bit of work needs doing on the boost control valve. Are you going to fit a 3 port boost solenoid prior to re-map as this will give better control.

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Old 26 December 2008, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dunx
Tenuous, but then it was a quiz....

HA ha ha

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Old 26 December 2008, 11:21 PM
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Actually Craig at MRC in Leeds swears by the Perrin one as an esential mod !

The engine may well become a 2.1 stroker next month !

LOL

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