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Old 04 November 2008, 09:24 AM
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how many are running this device on here?

what are there opinnions on it?

im debating whether to continue saving for a simtek ecu and get launch control and anti lag added along with removing maf..

or to go ahead and buy bobs launch control device on here and scrap the anti lag idea..

should i continue saving for the simtek?

ideally someone with expereince with both might help most

cheers
Old 04 November 2008, 09:31 AM
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ALS is such a small part of Simtek I guess it depends whether you need a remap or not and whether thats already possible with your current ECU ?
Old 04 November 2008, 09:53 AM
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currently running esl daughterboard, so dont need remap as yet..

but want to get rid of maf and also want launch control and anti lag option

power wise just 319bhp hoping for 350 , 360 so not big power.. really ..

i can pass on the anti lag.. but i really want launch control..

would it be better for me to just get this device.. and do themods for 350 rather than a simtek?
Old 04 November 2008, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by eggy790
how many are running this device on here?

what are there opinnions on it?

im debating whether to continue saving for a simtek ecu and get launch control and anti lag added along with removing maf..

or to go ahead and buy bobs launch control device on here and scrap the anti lag idea..

should i continue saving for the simtek?

ideally someone with expereince with both might help most

cheers
You need to get serious and decide if you will actually ever use it.
I bought a launch control device it was great fun for a week then was unused up to the point of selling it to a mate who thought it was a good idea.
Guess what 6 months later it still sat in his garage.......

Now if you needed an aftermarket ECU and it had these function included it would be rude not to have them enabled
But IMHO its not worth going to the expense of changing just to get these functions.
Old 04 November 2008, 10:05 AM
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ok good point..

i definately need launch control yes, due to the drag races i do..

also i think it is also compatible with hondas and my friend will defo take it off me for his civic vti turbo but then again he has a spoon ecu why he doesnt have it enabled i dont know..

his turbo kicks in at 6000 revs. 500 after his vtec

back to the point.. i think your right in no need to change ecu.. am best off just with this device spescially witht he flat shifting option it has..

anyone else got input on this before i order it after work?

p.s. 172sport you on cliosport.net?
Old 04 November 2008, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by eggy790
ok good point..

i definately need launch control yes, due to the drag races i do..

also i think it is also compatible with hondas and my friend will defo take it off me for his civic vti turbo but then again he has a spoon ecu why he doesnt have it enabled i dont know..

his turbo kicks in at 6000 revs. 500 after his vtec

back to the point.. i think your right in no need to change ecu.. am best off just with this device spescially witht he flat shifting option it has..

anyone else got input on this before i order it after work?

p.s. 172sport you on cliosport.net?

I used to be when i had my 172, I was under stu8v on there tho, seemed to loose my account here when i swapped addys. lol
Old 04 November 2008, 10:19 AM
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lol no probs.. i was close to buying a 172 cup till my friend got his subaru..

i just bit the bullet and jumped straight in at one aswell, lol never regretted it, still see throttle bodied clios and think maybe someday (specially since theres one itb'd phase 1 going for £4500, fully loaded) but tbh i dont think i ever will lol got addicted to boost..

anyway another question..
what are the main causes for maf faulure? i havnt had any problems with mine but seeing my friend change 3 in like 5 months makes me want to get rid just in case it happens to me..

also regarding launch control..what does it put more stress on? so i can look out for uprated parts aswell. (just clutch and gearbox? )

many thanks

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Old 04 November 2008, 10:51 AM
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MAF failure is only common on MY99/00 WRX/STIs, they have a fragile MAF and need replacing quite often, especially when water touches the hotwire!
I had to replace mine about 5times during 40.000km drinving, near every time on wet trackdays!
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Originally Posted by eggy790
lol no probs.. i was close to buying a 172 cup till my friend got his subaru..

i just bit the bullet and jumped straight in at one aswell, lol never regretted it, still see throttle bodied clios and think maybe someday (specially since theres one itb'd phase 1 going for £4500, fully loaded) but tbh i dont think i ever will lol got addicted to boost..

anyway another question..
what are the main causes for maf faulure? i havnt had any problems with mine but seeing my friend change 3 in like 5 months makes me want to get rid just in case it happens to me..

also regarding launch control..what does it put more stress on? so i can look out for uprated parts aswell. (just clutch and gearbox? )

many thanks
Use a std paper filter in the OE airbox and i doubt you will have any trouble.
They dont like contamination of any sort.

LOL was thinking of ditching the scoob and going back to a clio as they are sooo much fun.
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Originally Posted by Austrian Impreza
MAF failure is only common on MY99/00 WRX/STIs, they have a fragile MAF and need replacing quite often, especially when water touches the hotwire!
I had to replace mine about 5times during 40.000km drinving, near every time on wet trackdays!

lol mines in that band

but im using k&n panel filter so maybe because i dont drive it much in wet i aint getting problems.
Old 04 November 2008, 11:35 AM
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anyone actually running this launch control interface that can tell me their first hand experience of it?
Old 04 November 2008, 07:50 PM
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It's me, I'm running this set up at the moment, and once getting over a few teethig troubles have nothing but good things to report.

The launch control works well, although i am running an Exeedy clutch which may help. Took a few attempts to find what I considered the perfect rpm to launch at, but once found its a real hold onto your hat event .

I'm not a fan of the shift light side of things, unless you are wearing a helmet and cant really hear the engine so well, but as a result I just set the lower shift rpm where i wanted it and the second shift point higher than I will ever need it to stop it flashing like a mad one.

The flat foot shifting, is without doubt the best part of these for me, and take away the loss of boost during the shift and giving around 3 tenths on the strip.

There are some rather loud (understatement) bangs during both launch and FFS when the exhaust has plenty of temperature in it (400 deg plus seems to be ideal)

Overall a great product and does exactly what it says on the tin.
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Heared bad things about bend valves and other failures due to using lanchcontrols!
So I´m a bit afraid of using the Gizzmo...lying on my shelf for weeks!
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I heard bad things about Imprezas, Still bought one though
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Originally Posted by Austrian Impreza
Heared bad things about bend valves and other failures due to using lanchcontrols!
So I´m a bit afraid of using the Gizzmo...lying on my shelf for weeks!
lol dont say that, i just bought one and im well paranoid
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The one i had said dont use it for more than 10sec at a time, obviously to limit temps/damage.
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Originally Posted by bmfcrash
It's me, I'm running this set up at the moment, and once getting over a few teethig troubles have nothing but good things to report.

The launch control works well, although i am running an Exeedy clutch which may help. Took a few attempts to find what I considered the perfect rpm to launch at, but once found its a real hold onto your hat event .

I'm not a fan of the shift light side of things, unless you are wearing a helmet and cant really hear the engine so well, but as a result I just set the lower shift rpm where i wanted it and the second shift point higher than I will ever need it to stop it flashing like a mad one.

The flat foot shifting, is without doubt the best part of these for me, and take away the loss of boost during the shift and giving around 3 tenths on the strip.

There are some rather loud (understatement) bangs during both launch and FFS when the exhaust has plenty of temperature in it (400 deg plus seems to be ideal)

Overall a great product and does exactly what it says on the tin.

thanks for that, just what i was looking for
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Sorry for my post!

I would only use it on dragstrip and not too often...
Do STI V5/6 heads have shim over bucket style heads?
I read that they especially these valvetrain can be damaged by using ignitioncuttype launchcontrol.
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Originally Posted by Austrian Impreza
Sorry for my post!

I would only use it on dragstrip and not too often...
Do STI V5/6 heads have shim over bucket style heads?
I read that they especially these valvetrain can be damaged by using ignitioncuttype launchcontrol.
The shims are under the bucket.
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if your only aiming for 350bhp then launch control will not benefit you at all.

it will actually slow you down off the line compared to a proper right foot launch.

totally your decision but unless you are wanting 500bhp on rotated mount turbo etc launch control is not required
Old 05 November 2008, 02:34 PM
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The shims are under the bucket.
Thanks that´s what I meant!
But are they STI V5/6 heads, heads with shims under the bucket???

Launchcontrol can help your 60feet times, no matter what bhp your car runs imho!
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It gives consistancy.
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