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Old 15 October 2008, 11:10 PM
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Have a small problem with the new engine we've just put in my car.

Once fitted we used a ratchet on the crank to turn it over a few times, and all was fine.

Have just started it for the first time, and it now seems to be partly seized.

We have used the ratchet on the crank again, and the crank will turn 1/2 to 3/4 of a rotation then not budge. It will go back in the other direction though, but will then stick going that way aswell.

Fingers crossed the timing is out slightly.

What else could cause this to happen?
Old 15 October 2008, 11:19 PM
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Hi Gary

DazDavies here. (long story)

I had this on my last rebuild. It was caused by a leaking injector o ring. This resulted in fuel filling one of the cylinders thus causing hydrolock to the engine.

Take all of the plugs out and crank the engine by hand (ratchet on crank nut)

If the engine has been hydrolocked fuel will be spat out of the affected cylinder.

I had to take my tubular manifold off as that had filled with fuel too.

. of course this is just a theory but the symptoms you describe are identical.
Old 15 October 2008, 11:26 PM
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when you say you turned the engine over with a ratchet on the crank , i know if you turn in the wrong direction anti clock the cam belt can jump teeth and throw the timing out
Old 15 October 2008, 11:28 PM
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Will check both of those things tomorrow

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Old 15 October 2008, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobjam74
when you say you turned the engine over with a ratchet on the crank , i know if you turn in the wrong direction anti clock the cam belt can jump teeth and throw the timing out
Where on earth did you hear that?

That's never happened for me.
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Originally Posted by triplesix
Where on earth did you hear that?

That's never happened for me.
agree, the timing belt tensioner is only designed to keep the belt tight in the correct direction.. but unlikely when using a wratchet but worth checking..

other classic is leaving it in gear on a trailer and the car bounces about and the belt jumps.

As Daz said take the plugs out and disconnect the injectors and try it.. if you then use the key just get the coil packs way out the way..

Simon
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Originally Posted by triplesix
Where on earth did you hear that?

That's never happened for me.
when i was rebuilding my engine i was putting the cambelt on and when it was all in place turned it over but didnt think about rotation and looked as i was doing it and jumped a couple of teeth on the cambelt this was on my 96 but on latter models they have a guide over the top of the crank pullly to stop it jumpng teeth
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exactly as Daz says I had an identical prob to yours it was a leaking injector caused by a buggerd o ring in the injecter seat,

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BIG thank you to Daz. Now sorted

New problem though..... car turns over fine, but no spark getting to numbers 2 or 3.

Bugger
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I know this may sound like an obvious but have you double checked the connector plugs to the coils? As they can become an issue when the clips snap.

Possibly tape them up.

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BIG thank you to Daz. Now sorted

New problem though..... car turns over fine, but no spark getting to numbers 2 or 3.

Bugger
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Originally Posted by STI_Baly
I know this may sound like an obvious but have you double checked the connector plugs to the coils? As they can become an issue when the clips snap.

Possibly tape them up.
They are pretty new coilpacks, and the connectors are fine.

Looking back, after the old engine started knocking it was ok starting from hot (loading onto the flatbed after we realised what had happened) but once the car was cold it didn't want to start again, so not sure if that has something to do with it.

Will swap the coilpacks around tomorrow to see if that makes a difference.
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if that were the issue imho it would start and run on two..
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