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Old 15 September 2008, 10:32 PM
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I just thought I’d share some of my findings.


I’ve been running an ESL daughter board for about 18 months now on a td05. I get 1.1 bar easily and the acceleration is rapid.
After driving the car daily I would say I’m quite use to the power however the fuel consumption on long journeys still shocks me.


So I decided to try a Z4 apparently they both run a similar map.
The Z4 has been on the car for almost a week and I can’t get above 1 bar.
The acceleration is slow in comparison especially in a high gear.
I don’t know if the Z4 gives me a better return on fuel consumption and to be honest I don’t care.
I know you can’t have everything but I wasn’t expecting the Z4 to behave this bad.


I’ll be putting the ESL ecu back in very soon!
Old 15 September 2008, 11:00 PM
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TBH fella what did you expect?..The Z4 is a standard map running 0.8bar as opposed to the ESL being a tweaked map running 1.1bar.
Old 15 September 2008, 11:06 PM
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I was under the impression they both are mapped for 1.1 bar.

0.8 bar is a bit low for an td05 isn't it?
Old 15 September 2008, 11:18 PM
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You can run up to 1.1bar on a Z4, it won't make it without a boost controller to raise the boost though.

I run 1bar on a Z4.
Old 15 September 2008, 11:31 PM
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330bhp @ 1bar?
Old 16 September 2008, 01:11 PM
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sounds like a different map, the esl might have a tech 3 map on it mapped for anotehr car, would never run as well or to the full potential on a different car.

personal i wouldnlt use generic maps anyway, the esl is a good bit of kit, however it needs mapping for the individual car.
Old 16 September 2008, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by orbix
330bhp @ 1bar?
I know! I was told i was probably running 310bhp by Zen after they fitted the ESL live,running 1.35 bar,440's,full decat/headers etc etc.Might have to get a power run!
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Originally Posted by mit
I know! I was told i was probably running 310bhp by Zen after they fitted the ESL live,running 1.35 bar,440's,full decat/headers etc etc.Might have to get a power run!
all you have to do is look on mickywrxs profile and he has put his dyno graph up
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Oh i wasn't doubting it,it's just a really good result! It's strange how differently some of these cars react to tuning,some better than others. I must admit,my car feels alot quicker that 310bhp,but then it does have the RA box.
Old 16 September 2008, 10:57 PM
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My approach isn't advisable though.

380cc injectors are maxed out from around 5200 rpm on mine.

Should be throwing my 2 pot brakes out soon though.

What I find amusing though, I raced a friend 5 times at the SSO this year, 2.5 20g yada yada. Lashed him each time.

He had his car on the same rollers as I used this Saturday gone, 434bhp @ 1.5bar. He was 3rd in class behind me.

Power isn't everything.
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