hks or hybrid fmic
05 July 2008, 07:42 PM
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The Hybrid is a very good piece of kit and very good value for money, you would be surprised how many of the big power Subaru’s run this core.
06 July 2008, 10:58 AM
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Exactly. IIRC HKS FMIC kits for Subarus came out at a time when there was very little alternative so you had to pay what they charged. THings have moved on and other companies have sprung up who specialise in these kits, Hybrid being one well regarded FMIC at a very good price; Autobahn88 being the rock-bottom price alternative for even less money.
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07 July 2008, 01:26 AM
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PETE STi :
Is this an opinion or do you have evidence to back this up?
My Hybrid rarely runs more than 2c over ambient which is better a better result than I get from my APS FMIC in similar running conditions.
While we are at it can you please advise what type of core the Hybrid has, its specification and dimensions.
For Paul Blamire to choose one of my cores for his winning Time Attack car speaks volumes to me. If the HKS core is better I would very much appreciate more information. I only have first hand experience of APS, Autobahn and Hybrid plus some un-named cheapo, e-bay crap.
BTW, when I did my APS GB a few years ago, the price worked out at £1140 each from memory. I think we were getting stuffed by the limitted number of FMIC suppliers, HKS included. The FMIC prices were held artificially high at that time until Hybrid came along with a cracking product at a fraction of the cost and I now sell kits these at £285 inclusive of delivery and Paypal charges.
Obviously I am biased but show me the evidence that HKS is a better or more cost effective product.
Hks will have a much better core...
My Hybrid rarely runs more than 2c over ambient which is better a better result than I get from my APS FMIC in similar running conditions.
While we are at it can you please advise what type of core the Hybrid has, its specification and dimensions.
For Paul Blamire to choose one of my cores for his winning Time Attack car speaks volumes to me. If the HKS core is better I would very much appreciate more information. I only have first hand experience of APS, Autobahn and Hybrid plus some un-named cheapo, e-bay crap.
BTW, when I did my APS GB a few years ago, the price worked out at £1140 each from memory. I think we were getting stuffed by the limitted number of FMIC suppliers, HKS included. The FMIC prices were held artificially high at that time until Hybrid came along with a cracking product at a fraction of the cost and I now sell kits these at £285 inclusive of delivery and Paypal charges.
Obviously I am biased but show me the evidence that HKS is a better or more cost effective product.
07 July 2008, 09:54 AM
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harvey do you keep the tube/fin type in stock for a 97 classic ?. and hass the pipe work got a dump valve take off ?. also do you have a contact no i coud pay bye c/card if thats ok thanks cav
08 July 2008, 11:09 AM
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Hi cav 400 : All Hybrid FMICs are kept in stock and all come with clamps not jubilee clips including the the 3" clamps which I add to each kit.
Yes this is tube and fin for M/Y 97. (Actually M/Y 93-00)
Yes. The pipe to the throttlebody has a spiggot fot the dumpvalve connection. I also have flange adaptors to allow the use of the O/E Subaru D.V. on M/Y 99 and 00 cars but not required M/Y 93-98.
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Yes this is tube and fin for M/Y 97. (Actually M/Y 93-00)
Yes. The pipe to the throttlebody has a spiggot fot the dumpvalve connection. I also have flange adaptors to allow the use of the O/E Subaru D.V. on M/Y 99 and 00 cars but not required M/Y 93-98.
I have no credit card facilities but will take Paypal and I stand the fees or you can use internet banking, bank transfer or pay cash across the counter of any Barclays or HSBC Bank. Also cleared cheque.
Paypal and e-mail is harveysmith1@btopenworld.com
e-mail contact is preferred but my mobile is 07860 302020.
Despatch is normally same day from receipt of cleared funds and you have the option of overnight delivery or 2-3 day service all UK mainland.
08 July 2008, 08:39 PM
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Hiya chaps and chappets i know im gonna sound cheap but i do look for good bargains on tintertnet .flat4online are doing fmics with hks airfilters for £350 including del .i know u get what u pay for good job my scooby aint got eyes lol
10 July 2008, 09:24 AM
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Cav 400 : Only if you plan to produce more than 700 bhp!!! 
The RS is bar and plate with a thicker core and hence bigger end tanks. Therefore it is a little heavier but on the plus side it fully fills the aperture on the front of the car. Bar and plate cores, size for size, have more ability to absorb heat because of their construction and mass but they also have greater pressure loss across the core.
This is something that many people fail to consider. Many cheapo kits have huge pressure drops and this is compounded by poor pipework design in some cases. Some top mounts also have surprisingly high pressure drop figures despite their much more compact construction.
The fact that bar and plate can absorb more heat is however irrelevant because the size of the GT tube and fin core is so much bigger than it needs to be so it can efficiently handle the air flow and heat reduction requirements of almost all installations. The low pressure drop means the turbo is less stressed for a particular boost requirement and consequently making less heat.
I dont sell many of the RS but they are ideal for a show car where you want the butch look from the thicker core fully fitting the area in front of the radiator.
The RS is bar and plate with a thicker core and hence bigger end tanks. Therefore it is a little heavier but on the plus side it fully fills the aperture on the front of the car. Bar and plate cores, size for size, have more ability to absorb heat because of their construction and mass but they also have greater pressure loss across the core.
This is something that many people fail to consider. Many cheapo kits have huge pressure drops and this is compounded by poor pipework design in some cases. Some top mounts also have surprisingly high pressure drop figures despite their much more compact construction.
The fact that bar and plate can absorb more heat is however irrelevant because the size of the GT tube and fin core is so much bigger than it needs to be so it can efficiently handle the air flow and heat reduction requirements of almost all installations. The low pressure drop means the turbo is less stressed for a particular boost requirement and consequently making less heat.
I dont sell many of the RS but they are ideal for a show car where you want the butch look from the thicker core fully fitting the area in front of the radiator.
10 July 2008, 02:57 PM
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not if you use thiss
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is the hybrid MUCH better than the autobahn intercooler?
When my car was being setup and mapped the mapper said the intercooler was a piece of dung and the intake temps were a lot higher than he would have liked.
When my car was being setup and mapped the mapper said the intercooler was a piece of dung and the intake temps were a lot higher than he would have liked.
You know that Harvey's parts do what they are supposed to 
16 July 2008, 07:46 AM
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The Autobahn core is bar and plate and therefore has a bigger pressure drop than the tube and fin from Hybrid. With a bigger pressure drop, your turbo has to work that much harder to achieve the boost pressure.
I will get photographs of the two intercoolers and you will see the core construction of one is rather poor as is the finish on the pipes and top and bottom core pannels.
I will get photographs of the two intercoolers and you will see the core construction of one is rather poor as is the finish on the pipes and top and bottom core pannels.
18 July 2008, 08:10 AM
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Here are random photographs of a Hybrid core next to an Autobahn.
You can see the difference in quality here.
Look at how the inferior Autobahn core is not fully finned.
Look at the quality of the welding attaching the mounting boss.
Look at the finish on the top surface of each core which is repeated on the base surface.
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