I have my00 classic turbo with full decat and green panel filter.
Brakes are sorted, so now i want more power.
I do like how the td04 spools early, but it runs out of steam up the revsto early.
I have £1000 to spend and want to know what advice anyone can give me to achieve this.
By the way this is my everyday car.

 

Do you already have it remapped ? Do you have a Whiteline ARB - that's well worth while (and you'll be able to go faster round the bends !).

 

No its not been remaped yet, but what i thought was no point getting it mapped until i have the mods, or i will have to get it done again.
I have already got whiteline rear arb and front and back droplinks.

 

simtec ecu is a grand fitted and mapped. do this, its only about £150 to get it mapped after further mods. this will give you the best power gains if you only have a grand

 

Just get the existing set up mapped - cost you less than your £1000 and will get the best performance/safety out of that set up.

 

Do you not think a turbo and remap would be better?
I was thinking if getting my td04 hybrid.
What you think?

 

I would have a chat to a recognised mapper and ask their opinion telling what you use the car for and I am sure they will help point you in the right direction rather than rely on the trillions of untried opinions on here on what you should spend your money on.

You will get a very nice performance increase with just remapping what you have there at the moment - making the good points better and improving on the weaker points. Changing the turbo isnt the only way forward.

 

If you just remap with your current mods you should get 270-280bhp.

This is what I did using Ecutek, and gives a very quick spooling drive but it does run out of puff top end.

This will cost you about £600 all in.

If you change the turbo to something like TD04hybrid then you should have similar spool but better top end, and approx. 300-310bhp.

This will cost you £400 for the turbo, whatever it costs to swap it over and £600 for remap via Ecutek again.

I don't know much about Simtec?

So how deep are your pockets.....


I have been very happy with mine, drive 90% around town and don't like revving the guts out of the old girl so I'm happy with the TD04. Oh, 273bhp/273lbft.

I have been thinking about TD04H, VF28 or VF34/35 but I don't think the performance for the roads I use would justify the extra expense.

 

a remap on the standard ecu and a fmic maybe a better option than the turbo and remap. oh, and a walbro 255 fuel pump.

 

Thanks for all your views. It looks like just a remap might be good for now.
Most of my driving is around town, with just a bit on the motorway.
you say about 600 for a remap but my local mapper is scooby clinic and theirs is fair bit more. Any other suggestions.
Also for remap will i need uprated fuel pump?

 

Ideally turbo and map together along with supporting fueling mods would be great however it’s totally down to your budget, I personally like the hybrid TD04 however some prefer the cheaper Priced VF turbo's.

Mapping your car as present will also see good gains as pointed out above it will make around 280 and will be an overall better drive, so don’t feel you need to buy a new turbo to make a noticeable improvement.

Also i think you will find remaps are not the same as the initial ecutec map with license but less around the £400 mark.

Have a chat with http://www.jollygreenmonster.com/index.htm About ecutec

 

you will notice a great difference with a map and 255 pump with existing set up, better drivability and fuel ecconomy. but if your going to spend that 600 ish on that you might as well get a new turbo at same time and get that bit extra.i did it in 2 parts and was the expensive route

jim

 

Scoobyclinic - looks like its is £650 so not too far away?

A lot of people change the fuel pump 'just in case' but unless you are changing the turbo and going for 300+bhp, then the standard fuel pump is fine. Apparently up to 320bhp.

To Quote Andy, without a doubt one of the best mappers around:

'Fuel Pump
The original fuel pump effectiveness varies both throughout model years and with mileage. For any horsepower goals above 320 bhp an uprated (255litres per hour rated up to 550 bhp) Walbro type pump is recommended.'

Loads of useful info. on his site also:

AndyForrestPerformance

 

or £80 or so s it worth not changing it ?

 

i would just get it remapped,it will transform the car 270-280bhp which will put a smile on your face

if your looking over 300bhp,want quick spool td04 hybrid or vf35 turbo, will also need uprated fuel pump.

 

If your going to spend £600 getting it mapped then you'll always think 'wish I changed the turbo at the same time'. Get the TD04H from andy.f here AndyForrestPerformance and a fuel pump and then get mapping. I also loved the TD04 on my wagon, insane response on a 2l. Now have the TD05, btu in hindsight a TD04H would have suited me better.

 

scoobyclinic is £650 but thats plus vat.

i have seen some fairly cheap vf turbos on ebay such as vf35, but on ebay you dont know what your buying.

I just don't want to get a remap then regret not getting turbo aswell, and having to get another map soon after.

really i think it depends on what difference a remap makes.

thanks for everyones views.

 

it will be like driving a different car - you wont regret it but it will make you want for more and unfortunately that never stops.

 

Thanks dynamix.

I think i will just get remap for now. Surely it will make me happier for a bit, and then i can upgrade turbo at a later date.

Will save me about £500 aswell.

Does remap make turbo pull stronger or for longer up the revs?.

 

both - it depends on what YOU want and whether the turbo and car can do it.

Chat to the mapper about what characteristics you want it to have and I am sure they will oblige as best they can.

 

Thanks everyone

 

Had car remaped by scooby clinic today. it made 260 with full decat.
Thought it might have been more.
Havn't had chance to try it yet cause traffic all the way home.
Why are most people with same mods getting 270+
I know it's how it drives and i am not moaning but just got me puzzled.

 

Depends on the dyno and so many other variables - the feel on the road is far more important.