STI 8 Injectors
Aug 21, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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STI 8 Injectors
Upto what bhp are the standard STI 8 injectors good for (not at 100% duty)
Also what size are they?
Doing a few upgrades soon!!
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Aug 22, 2007 | 06:41 PM
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Think they are 565cc and good for around 400bhp
Aug 22, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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Look at the bottom of Andy's page, it may or may not be relevent to your model
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Aug 22, 2007 | 07:31 PM
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scoobytyson
Think they are 565cc and good for around 400bhp
You will struggle to make 400 bhp with standard fuel pressure, more realistic figure is 360-370 at 90 ish percent duty cycle.
Aug 22, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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I'm fitting a Fuel Lab Regulator will this help achieve a higher BHP figure and duty cycle percentage or just ensure an even fuel flow?
Cheers lads
Aug 22, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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From: Nottingham with 620BHP & 530lb/ft @1.5bar boost on road fuel.
STi pinks are just over 500cc. If you run higher base pressure then yes, you can reduce duty cycle (obviously within reason)
Aug 23, 2007 | 08:05 AM
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Will they be Pinks in this or the Blue Top 505's ?
Aug 23, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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Will they be Pinks in this or the Blue Top 505's ?
They'll be pinks on that model - 500cc.
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Stewart.
Aug 23, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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When did they start putting blue tops in STI's then?
Aug 23, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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hang on, i thought new-age sti injectors were 565?
Aug 23, 2007 | 11:02 AM
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Henrik
hang on, i thought new-age sti injectors were 565?
Thats what i thought and have been told tooooooo
Aug 23, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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yes Pinks are around 565 cc, The 505cc blue tops were first used in Hawkeye .
Aug 23, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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I thought they were 552.xx (where xx varies between ECU variants)
Std injectors are good for around 370bhp at std fuel pressure, 420ish at 4bar.
What turbo are you fitting?
Aug 23, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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Ah cool, thanks for clearing that up
Aug 23, 2007 | 06:26 PM
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I thought they were 552.xx (where xx varies between ECU variants)
Std injectors are good for around 370bhp at std fuel pressure, 420ish at 4bar.
What turbo are you fitting?
One of Andy F's TD05 20G
Aug 23, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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From: Nottingham with 620BHP & 530lb/ft @1.5bar boost on road fuel.
OEM "pink" injectors are 510cc per min. Straight from the STi parts book and verified by both tuning test limit results on all the ones we've used over the past 6 years since the New Age was launched and through our injector flow test rig.
A common mistake made by a lot or retailers though that they are perceicved to be bigger than they actually are.
Someone else has mentioned above that they thought 370BHP was their limit, I would suggest that is fairly close unless you're going to "run the nuts" off them (not advisable).
If you're likely to get to that kind of HP, you really do need the next size up (650cc) to retain a little headroom on IDC's.
Aug 24, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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Mike, I know that hence the smiley - you'll be telling me that WRX injectors aren't 420cc next
Dave, The fuellab FPR at 4bar will be fine for a 20G.
Andrew...
Aug 24, 2007 | 11:57 PM
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Mike, I know that hence the smiley - you'll be telling me that WRX injectors aren't 420cc next
Dave, The fuellab FPR at 4bar will be fine for a 20G.
Andrew...
Fine for 400bhp?
Thanks Andrew.
Aug 25, 2007 | 06:45 AM
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a good rule of thumb for injector sizing is:
injectors size / 1.375 = max bhp
=>
505 / 1.375 = 367
650 / 1.375 = 472
etc etc
Aug 25, 2007 | 11:10 PM
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a good rule of thumb for injector sizing is:
injectors size / 1.375 = max bhp
=>
505 / 1.375 = 367
650 / 1.375 = 472
etc etc
Excellent!! If this is true it should be entered into a ScoobyNet hall of teccy fame or something.
But what about adding to the formulae for considering fuel pressure
Can anyone put a fruit pastel in the mouth and not chew it while solving that one
Aug 26, 2007 | 06:37 AM
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This came from Pat the Map so is true enough for me
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