Sc0oby

which do you think would go better a sti ra v2 with jdm chip n headers map at 1.2 bar or a v3 type r with a fmt and pfc running at 1 bar. both had the same intake/exhaust/filter mod.

exvaux

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define what you mean by go better?As a guide my v5 typeR is quicker than my mates old V6 RA on the quarter mile both standard cars

Sc0oby

rolling road which one would come out first? v2 had a td05 turbine while the v3 uses the stock vf23. or would they come out the same? v2 n v3 running stock injectors

911

Type R much better car all round, and i have an Sti v3!

Sc0oby

anyone? would the v2 RA be faster due to bigger turbine spooling at the high end?

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The rookie

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If you don't know what you mean by better, no-one else will!

turbine 'spooling' refers to it coming on boost, the larger turbo will hold more boost (or same at better efficiency) at higher engine speeds.

As for which one is quicker, if one is well mapped and optimised and the other not, then the mapped one will be quicker, likewise one may be mapped to a very conservative boost, making it 'slower'. No one can asnwer your question until you know what question you want answered and tell us exactly!

Simon

Sc0oby

how about in a straight line rolling from 20-100 to 120 kmh?

The rookie

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As for which one is quicker, if one is well mapped and optimised and the other not, then the mapped one will be quicker, likewise one may be mapped to a very conservative boost, making it 'slower'. No one can asnwer your question until you know what question you want answered and tell us exactly!

However untouched and as built by Subaru, the RA would have the edge, and as your modded cars have it running more boost, thats unlikley to have changed!

Simon

exvaux

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i dont agree id put my standard typeR against any standard RA in a straight line,see my above post for details,although everyone claims the ra is the lightest and fastest ive seen many standard typeR's put out over 300 bhp when its alledged to be only 276 and its got 2 less doors.Best way is to put them side by side and then see.

TonyBurns

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STi RA's have always been better than STi type R's for the simple matter that they are race altered (engine oil cooler etc)
Performance wise, a newer v3 will be better than an older v2 (could be that 3 extra bhp between the engines ) but nothing really in it (except the gear ratio's on the RA will be closer than the R's and so reduce the top speed but give greater accelleration).
Swings n roundabouts

Tony

TonyBurns

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Ive not seen any type r push out over 300bhp standard, most are about 270bhp on uk fuel, about 290 is the highest ive seen, and ive seen a couple but most are modded so with that they probably will push over 300bhp, but the factory quoted figure is about right at 280ps.

Tony

Sc0oby

thanks for the reply guys just wanting to see which will go better on the rolling since vf23 spool up faster than the td05 and also isnt the v3 has got the 440cc as compare to v2 380cc injectors?

Hol

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Im an ex TypeR owner - modified.

Year for year*, the R/RA drivetrain is the same in both cars. The only difference being weight, which I think is in the RA's favour ONLY if it did not have the optional electric windows, Aircon etc, that the R came with as standard.

* Type R's were only produced from 97 V3 onward, with the phase 1.5 engine and better intercooler/IHI roller bearing turbos.

RA's were available in V1/2 form as lightweight cars (without the electric and aircon), with a TD05 turbo capable of more power when tuned, BUT with a restricted slanty intercooler.

If both cars were standard V3/4 cars with identical 'optional extras' then I think that the TypeR may have been lighter/more power to weight.

exvaux

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Car Stats - Four Wheel Drive
That has the ra 10 kg heaver than the R ok its the version 6 they are comparing not the 2 and 3