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Old 27 February 2007, 12:16 AM
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.... i am after some advice.

i want to find out what header set-up will give me the biggest torque gain.

either;

tubular s/s un-equal lenght header's

tubular s/s equal lenght header's

standard header's ported



all would be heat wraped obviously.




thank's Ben
Old 27 February 2007, 02:24 AM
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equal length probaly when mapped properly but im goin 4 un equal ones from zen performance very soon, dont think there will be much in it unless u r goin 4 serious power
Old 27 February 2007, 02:27 AM
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the gain of equal vs unequal is an unproven one on scoobs. Best stick to the ones known to cause no issues. These are either the gruppe-s (2 bolt up-pipe) and gt-spec (3 bolt up-pipe). I have the gruppe-s and in 2 years have never given me any trouble.
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yeah the gruppe s ones r very popular n very well made, u cant go wrong with a top quality manifold
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Had my 2 bolt Gruppe S on for 3 years now @ 1.6 bar and all is perfect, inc the flex up-pipe. Buy quality once.

As to best for torque at the sacrifice of top end, I think you will find the ported stock unit's best.

You can get a set from David at Welcome to the API website

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Old 27 February 2007, 11:04 AM
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yeah i have hurt the stnd header's ported are good for torque,

i want idealy to have more torque than bhp, for how i use and drive my car that will be better suited to me. plus as i'm on a budget etc huge bhp is out of my reach.
Old 27 February 2007, 12:37 PM
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Ported cast headers (no need to wrap) about £170 from API.
Gruppe S with up-pipe about £350 + £40 for wrapping.

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guess i'll try the cast ported header's but might change the up pipe.
Old 27 February 2007, 06:29 PM
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Good idea.
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Old 27 February 2007, 10:29 PM
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any idea on what sort of gain i could get???
Old 27 February 2007, 10:48 PM
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Any mod on it's own will be compromised, bring a few all to gether and the effect can be very good, but you will need about £1000 to really feel it.
Maybe 5% increase in everything.
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well i have a 3'' straight through exhaust, and will have a green cotton pannel filter with direct cold air feed from the front bumper, will up the boost to 1.1bar along with FPR and 225 fuel pump.

all on a my95 wrx with a Z4

and the cast header's and modded up pipe

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That is a good basis to start from.
An Apexi FC would release more boost and control the fuel/ignition well.

You will then get the low/mid range torque you want for a good drivable road car.
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well thank's for your help 911 i'm going to be having a semi closed sti block going in soon but i will keep you posted.

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