Rince

Really want an oil change for my 2000 classic, but if i were to take it to somewhere like Kwik Fit, would they have the right oil to stick in? What grade should I be putting in?

Cheers,

Andy

92typeRA

just do it yaself mate . i done mine 2 weeks ago for the first time on a scooby took me 20 min **** easy

i used motul 3000v 15/50 not sure on you

Opie Oils Guy will sort ya out he can recommend ya an oil

JohnD

iTrader: (5)

Kwik-Fit! Shame on you man.
As Type RA says, do it yourself if it's just a basic oil change. Don't forget the filter! (PRE-FILL the filter before you fit it)
In terms of oil, it depends on what you're budget is or how fussy or protective you are of your engine. You could use a semi-synthetic at around £20 for 5ltres or double that for a good ester based full-syn. You've got the Opie oils link to see what's available from them, and you can also get the filter from them as well.
JohnD
PS Opie oils are doing a promotion at the moment with some good savings.

Sc0oby

go for motul or liqui moly

Rince

Thx peeps

Only mentioned kwik fit cos they are 100 yards from me and its good to just drop it off and head into work

Don't have any tools to do the job myself - really need to get a manual!

JohnD

iTrader: (5)

A braver man than I, Gunga Din! Seriously though, if it's just an oil change, stay there while they do it and supply your own oil and filter.
JohnD

scoobyman95

also disconnect cam sensor to prime system after you change it

Rince

OK - if its getting to disconnect other things, then ill have to get someone else to do it cos I never worked on one before

JohnD

iTrader: (5)

Don't expect KwikFit to disconnect anything or possibly even pre-fill the filter! Most main dealers certainly don't disconnect the crank sensor! Don't worry, the main thing is to make sure the filter is full of oil before fitting. It hangs straight down, so you won't spill any. When you re-start, let the engine run at its fast idle for a few mins. before opening the throttle.
Learning this basic service item will save you a lot of money and you know it's been done properly! Try to find a Scooby enthusiast locally who is willing to show you how it's done?
JohnD

92typeRA

you dont have to disconnect the cam sensor thats all bull S**T. just full up the new filter

as john says learning the basic things WILL save YOU a small fortune and you know it done right go on you know you want to

Rince

Thanks peeps,

In work at the mo so can't check, but do I need to jack the car up to get to the oil filter? in jacking it up does it allow me to drain all the oil ok?

Sorry for idiotic sounding questions

Heple

I'm sure you mean crank sensor, and to advise not to do it is ludicrous.

If your car is standard then buy any 5w40 FULLY SYNTHETIC oil it should only cost you around £20

Buy an oil filter £5

Oil Change Proceedure
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1) Warm engine up

2) Remove/open the flap of the dirt tray under the car.

3) Undo large nut on your sump and empty oil into a container

4) Remove oil filter

5) Replace the large sump bolt with new washer (or instant gasket)

6) Fill new oil filter up with the new oil (can take 5-10mins as it slowley absorbs the oil)

7) Fit the new oil filter

8) Put 4 litres of oil into the engine

9) UNPLUG THE CRANK SENSOR YOU WILL SEE IT UNDER THE ALTERNATOR CIRCLED BELOW





10) Attempt to start the car it will not start, just keep cranking it for a minute.

11) Now re-connect the crank sensor

12) Start the engine

DO NOT OVER FILL THIS CAN CAUSE MORE PROBLEMS MAKE SURE YOU ONLY PUT 4 LITRES OF OIL IN THE ENGINE.

MAKE SURE YOUR OIL LEVEL IS IN BETWEEN THE MIN AND MAX POINT ON THE DIPSTICK

Job Done !

This is the CORRECT PROCEEDURE ! you only have to search for "blown engines" to see how many of these are a result of a incorrect service proceedure (in many cases done by garages).

Do the job yourself it is really easy and you will learn a little about the engine aswell. If not at least print this off and take it to the garage that is doing the service to make sure they do it right.

Craig

92typeRA

[QUOTE=Heple;6652914]I'm sure you mean crank sensor, and to advise not to do it is ludicrous.

yeh thats what i ment

so why its it ludicrous? thats just taking it abit to far doin that oil pump springs to mind.....but hay iff thats what ya do then its all good

oh and mine takes 4.6 ltr off oil told by a very raspected <spelling man on SN

i got the oil pan under my sump without jacking it up. iff your car is not lowerd you should be ok mate. you might get the oil filter off with ya hands iff not you can get a tool at halfords for about £5 best £5 you will ever spend lol.

let us know how ya get on mate

scoobyman95

I will say anyone who has serviced a scooby or work on them on a daily basis will tell who to disconnect cam sensor not crank?? to prime the system the cam sensor is right below the oil fill neck you will see a little plug that goes in by cam cover if you don't prime system you are asking for trouble in the long run??? they do take 4.6 ltr unless the system is totally empty then it will take a bit over 5ltr to fill it

Claaarkio

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4.6L is probably including what you fill inthe oil filter., so maybe 0.5L in the filter and 4 in the block.

dave

92typeRA

spot on mate

Rince

Fantastic stuff - thx for all the help and the pics peeps

I feel a trip to halfords coming up Will grab one of those tools to get the oil filter off as well. Not been lowered so might be ok

Heple

You might find that you dont have enougth space to use one of them tools although i'm not sure as i have never used one.

I always hammer a screwdriver through the bottom of the filter then twist it using the screwdriver. It can get a little messy but always works for me.

Craig

Rince

Looking at it, I cant see how I'm gonna get underneath without a jack. Not been lowered, I don't think, but there is certaily no way I'd manage

Can see me getting a trolly jack while I'm getting other bits

Heple

Its always good to have a trolley jack they come in very useful.

If you need any help dont hesitate to PM me and i'll guide you through it.

Craig

black_scooby

Just get hold of the filter with a strip of sand paper in your hand and undo, never found one yet that can't be undone this way.

Lee

JohnD

iTrader: (5)

This is begining to look more expensive than having it done at KwikFit!
If you wern't right up north, I'd do it for you myself!
Forget the trolly jack, get a couple of axle stands, use the supplied jack and lift one side then support underneath with the axle stand on a load bearing beam. Remove the jack and do the same on the other side. (leave the jack in place as extra safety) Rock the car to make sure all is secure.
TIP - Punch a hole in the bottom of the old filter and let it drain before removing as there's a fair bit of oil held above the filter and you'll get rather oily if you don't!
JohnD

aggs

love the sand paper tip.
Good one.

gaz-cole

the best thing to come from an oil change thread, apart from all that crap about disconecting crank/cam sensors just prime the filter top up the oil start it let it idle stop it check the oil job done.

Heple

Yeah that normally works for me too

The use of the screwdriver and hammer comes into play on the odd one that doesnt play.

I just love to get my hammer out when i'm frustrated

Just a note - The sandpaper trick is also good for tightening aswell

Craig