Notices

Happy new year! DUMP VALVE???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01 January 2007, 03:29 AM
  #1  
danwrx4
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
danwrx4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Happy new year! DUMP VALVE???

Happy new year all, i have a baileys dump valve fitted on my 97 wrx, its the one when you let off the pedal it makes a sound... is this really worth it performance wise because it never really shows off the car as it only makes a noise on the motorway or if you give her some beans and then let off??
Old 01 January 2007, 08:45 AM
  #2  
Multijfj
Scooby Regular
 
Multijfj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Mansfield. Nottingham
Posts: 604
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Well ask yourself, why do you want a dumpvalve? If you want with sound, go and get one with sound! If you dont, then get a recirculating one which does improve performance a little, but nothing noticeable id say
Old 01 January 2007, 11:04 AM
  #3  
andy_s37
Scooby Regular
 
andy_s37's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Nr Liverpool
Posts: 672
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default How brave of you to post "Dump Valve" on this forum.

Dan the chances are that if you strip it down, clean it out and regrease it you will get the noise back. Baileys i've had in the past usually make noise at low pressures.

Andy.
Old 01 January 2007, 02:15 PM
  #4  
danwrx4
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
danwrx4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

when it does actually make a noise it is quite load, the ones i heard before usually go of as you accelerate rather than decelerate though
Old 01 January 2007, 04:31 PM
  #5  
JohnD
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (5)
 
JohnD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Havering, Essex
Posts: 6,252
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

With due respect, Dan, I think you need to swot up on what a dump valve actually does? Your engine was fitted with a perfectly good dump valve as standard. Fitting an aftermarket version which vents to the atmosphere as opposed to back into the induction system, as the original does, is for the noise it makes (unless the original has failed in some way)
If the ones you've heard have made noises on acceleration as opposed to lift off, then there is something strangely wrong with them?
JohnD
Old 01 January 2007, 09:53 PM
  #6  
martx
Scooby Regular
 
martx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: South London
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I love a bit of 'WHOOOOOOOSH!', always have always will.

I've just ordered a forge atmospheric (can't spell it!)

mart
Old 01 January 2007, 10:07 PM
  #7  
Elmer Fudpucker
BANNED
 
Elmer Fudpucker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: House
Posts: 2,941
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Blow-off Valves
Old 01 January 2007, 10:16 PM
  #8  
Dark Blue Mark
Scooby Regular
 
Dark Blue Mark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Bournemouth - 5x Ex Impreza owner. 997 GT3 CS.
Posts: 7,333
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

LOL John

MB
Old 01 January 2007, 11:37 PM
  #9  
BedHog
Scooby Regular
 
BedHog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: At the bottom of a glass
Posts: 1,462
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Elmer Fudpucker
That is just his opinion. One has to doubt that anyone could actually feel a difference between a recirculating and blow-off valve in everyday driving.
Old 01 January 2007, 11:41 PM
  #10  
Elmer Fudpucker
BANNED
 
Elmer Fudpucker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: House
Posts: 2,941
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Old 01 January 2007, 11:51 PM
  #11  
BedHog
Scooby Regular
 
BedHog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: At the bottom of a glass
Posts: 1,462
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

It's true.

I've never seen anyone quote figures. If they did I would assume it would be in the order of 0.01 seconds slower for a quarter mile...

The only real consideration for a blow-off dump valve is whether you want noise or not.

Please feel free to contradict this with REAL facts, not myths.
Old 01 January 2007, 11:52 PM
  #12  
Dark Blue Mark
Scooby Regular
 
Dark Blue Mark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Bournemouth - 5x Ex Impreza owner. 997 GT3 CS.
Posts: 7,333
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Or if you want it to screw up your fuelling....

MB
Old 02 January 2007, 12:04 AM
  #13  
BedHog
Scooby Regular
 
BedHog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: At the bottom of a glass
Posts: 1,462
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Dark Blue Mark
Or if you want it to screw up your fuelling....

MB
The amount of time that this condition actually exists, compared to when you are in gear and driving is miniscule. Do you really believe it's important?

How does the ECU know how much air actually gets re-used and how much escapes from the pressurised manifold back through the air filter? The amount will surely depend on how long the gear change takes.

Plus if people want an audible blow off noise, they probably wont be too upset about a few pops and bangs which might result from running rich momentarily (better than running lean, no?)
Old 02 January 2007, 12:04 AM
  #14  
Damocell
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Damocell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Barnsley
Posts: 1,006
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I could feel the difference, not in acceleration but in driveability of the car, recirc wins everytime for me....but I really do miss the noise!

Damo
Old 02 January 2007, 12:07 AM
  #15  
Damocell
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Damocell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Barnsley
Posts: 1,006
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

the over fuelling comes from MAF revertion and if the dump valve is constantly venting at part throttle on the motorway

Post number 19 on this thread explains it brilliantly

https://www.scoobynet.com/drivetrain...highlight=jolt

Damo
Old 02 January 2007, 12:36 AM
  #16  
andythejock01wrx
Scooby Regular
 
andythejock01wrx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Edinburgh (ish)
Posts: 8,089
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Damocell
I could feel the difference, not in acceleration but in driveability of the car, recirc wins everytime for me....but I really do miss the noise!

Damo
Can you explain in detail what difference you felt on removing the BOV ?
Old 02 January 2007, 01:28 AM
  #17  
Damocell
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Damocell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Barnsley
Posts: 1,006
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
Can you explain in detail what difference you felt on removing the BOV ?
https://www.scoobynet.com/general-te...valve-wow.html

Damo
Old 02 January 2007, 01:33 AM
  #18  
andythejock01wrx
Scooby Regular
 
andythejock01wrx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Edinburgh (ish)
Posts: 8,089
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Cheers Damo. Interesting read.

My 01 WRX had a Baileys dump valve on it when I bought it 6 months ago.

Thinking about swapping it for OE, but was concerned that the car might be less responsive (it's good at the mo).
Old 02 January 2007, 01:44 AM
  #19  
BedHog
Scooby Regular
 
BedHog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: At the bottom of a glass
Posts: 1,462
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

My car feels better with the HKS SSQV.

Before, the car seemed to keep going for a couple of seconds after releasing the accelerator, with the HKS the revs die instantly. Plus I do like the sound...
Old 02 January 2007, 11:21 AM
  #20  
Dark Blue Mark
Scooby Regular
 
Dark Blue Mark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Bournemouth - 5x Ex Impreza owner. 997 GT3 CS.
Posts: 7,333
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Bed Hog,

I know the issues around VTA's extremely intimately, which allows me to post about it with some knowledge.

Do you knw any "good" mappers that will tell you its a good idea?

Think its all a bit gay just to get a hissing noise

MB
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
shorty87
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
19
22 December 2015 11:59 AM
PetrolHeadKid
Driving Dynamics
10
05 October 2015 05:19 PM
supshon
General Technical
2
03 October 2015 08:06 PM
speedrick
Subaru Parts
0
28 September 2015 01:06 PM
shorty87
Other Marques
0
25 September 2015 08:52 PM



Quick Reply: Happy new year! DUMP VALVE???



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:03 AM.