Scoobyfirsttime

Hi

last night i managed to blow a hole though the block of my WRX engine - its a 2001 wagon with 75k miles on the clock. Recently had a stage 1 upgrade (STI intercooler, prodrive exhaust and sports cat, fuel pump and ECU remap to produce 271bhp and 1.2bar of turbo boost).

This is my first scoob so not sure what to do now - I have enquired about getting a new engine (well from a breakers), its another EJ20 and has done 30k miles - they want £1200 plus VAT. Is that a good price ?

Also would this be a good time to upgrade to the larger 2.2L engine (think thats the EJ22???). How much should I be looking to pay for that ?

Any advice would be very gratefully received........

Neilo

if its a complete engine with all ancillaries (i.e. turbo intercooler etc) then yes....

talk to API, they will be able to sort you out. Who mapped the car?

Peanuts

iTrader: (15)

you may struggle to find an ej22t, they are rarer than rocking horse ****.
Replacing the lump with another ej20 is a good idea, not too hard a job for an afternoon with an engine hoist and a mate.
Buying from a breakers may bring a warranty but not sure if you fit it yourself, they can be had on ebay for a fair bit less, but best to buy an engine you can hear running

Scoobyfirsttime

The work was carried out by WRC Tech at Silverstone. Think I will probably go for the engine (EJ20) I found as I don't know enough yet to start messing with other set-ups.

I have thought about maybe changing some of the internals though - maybe forged con-rods/pistons etc ? Don't want to experience this too many more times........!!

Neilo

easiest thing would be to have a new STI9 bottom end fitted (assuming that there is no damage to the other parts of your engine like heads/turbo etc....

probably looking at just over 1k fitted id say from API.

Trap2Terrorist

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Jesus, this type of post scared the **** out of me.

I have a 2001 WRX with full decat, remap 282bhp, blah blah, similar to your spec. The thought of it going bang is enough to give me nightmares.

(although a good excuse for a higher spec engine )

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

You really need to find out why your engine had a failure, if its down to something like say the mapping which caused a problem or another item outside the engine itself....
Find the cause, fix it and rebuild engine

Tony

Scoobyfirsttime

Cheers for the responses. Firstly (and please excuse the complete ignorance here ) is an STI9 bottom end etc going to be more robust than a WRX one. Also when I get it back on the road (hopefully soon), will I need to get the ECU remapped again ?

I really hope no-one else has to go through this soon, its pants not being able to drive my Scooby

360ste

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You don't have to tell me. My Bugeye STi lost a coil pack and ran rough as F. Once I had worked out the snag ordered one from my local'ish (40 miles away) dealer last Saturday. Had to wait till today to get a lift to pick the coil pack up thankfully my diagnosis was right.

Scoobyfirsttime

Mind you, my lesson is learnt here, guess I have been nailing it too much lately, can't help it though, since I had the upgrade done the car is just so much more usable. Normally though I wouldn't take it above 5.5k rpm, but last night took it through to about 6.5, just short of the redline. Price paid !!

swtmerce

£1K fitted? Way off the mark. I just had a bottom end rebuild and that cost £3K. And for that I didn't have to replace the block which this guy will have to do.

Ninnybobs

SFT,

YHPM

Martin

The Chief

I blew mine up whilst having fun - now i have an STi short block which is far more robust due to its forged rods and pistons.

1200 quid for an engine (if its complete) is good. is it the whole engine or just the short block???

scooby_me

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Hello mate if you are looking for a good replacment engine give James a ring at ESSEX SUBARU BREAKERS, the have loads of cars in various stages of dismantle and also have engines on the shelf.

Prices are VERY reasonable compared with others on the market,

looking at <--1k for a replacment fully fitted.

give em a call

Work Shop : 01268 572 149
Jamie : 07795 363 295
Mike : 07747 618 130

Fast, friendly advise & service.
Try before you buy.
Classic Specialist.
2nd Hand parts on the shelf or on current car being broken.
Cars for sale.

I'm over the moon with there service.!

Just picked my car up tonight after having replacment engine,4-pots, and my apexi rsm fitted.

big grin on face now all is well again.

booked in next month for FMIC,TD05,Facelift frontend,and to have my rear sti 7 spoiler fitted :-)

HTH

Darren

mikeb290bhp

my 02 plate scooby has just gone bang with 43k on the clock coz power tune in chester ****ed it with a remap they had it runnin 1.6 bar and i never new til i fitted a boost con coz the car was runnin **** by this time it was to late
but hey look on the bright side it was an excuse for a 6k rebuild by dp lol

Neilo

Where from? my "built" 2.5 with a lot of other work was less than that?

The basic block (sti9) is about 800 quid +vat.

swtmerce

I had a big end bearing failure so I had a new STi9 crank, ACL race bearings (main and big end), couple of STi conrods, Cometic metal head gaskets and Roger Clark oil pump and then the labour to take it out, strip it down, clean it (heads as well) and put it all back together again. I called a lot of tuners (Roger Clark, Zen Performance, API, Extreme Scoobies, Special Scoobies, Scoobyclinic etc) and their prices for this work ranged from £2250+VAT to over £4000+VAT. I won't mention which company I used for fear of putting across the wrong message when some troll starts to say I overpaid!

ZEN Performance

That's a good solution, done properly and the prices are not rediculous. We have done a number of such rebuilds, and they can often end up over £3k +vat by the time you have done the remedial work to the heads and we have found these engines often need a rebore and new pistons due to bore distortion. It's important to note the difference between a proper rebuild and a quick fix.

A sti9 shortblock should be a very good, quick solution to for a WRX. It won't ultimately be as strong as a build engine, and often the shortblock doesn't represent the majority of the build cost (many people get new clutch and flywheel for instance).

We will soon be stocking built shortblocks for sale on an exhange basis. Built with forged pistons, billet H-beam rods, Sti9 crank (where applicable) and ACL bearings.

Scoobyfirsttime

To All,

Thanks for all the help and useful discussion. I think I am going to go for a complete engine rather than a bottom end rebuild as I am unsure what damage I will have done to the rest of the engine.

It also occurs to me that this is probably the safer option in terms of quality of finished product. My plans for the future will be to have some of the internals strenthened then next year to possibly go for a 320bhp performance upgrade.

At the moment I am still wondering whether or not I will need to get a remap done after the engine work ?

D

classic_sti

ive just found out today that i have burnt a hole through one of the pistons on my engine
been told im better buying i new engine rather than getting it fixed!

just bought a engine from GRADE A in new mills for £900 and now its gonna be £500 to fit it with new cambelt and new seals etc
so now i have a m reg wrx thats cost me £6000..
GUTTED

Scoobyfirsttime

Sorry to hear someone else having engine probs. I spoke to Grade A and they want to charge me £1400.........something wrong here, another phone call required me thinks.......

Note to Martin - have replied to your message mate.

D

ZEN Performance

All depends on what engine they want to sell you compared to what they've sold to someone else. £900 is very cheap for a whole engine if it's 2001 spec lump, but not for an old wrx unit.

LegacySTi

iTrader: (13)

I've a fully freshly built 0 mile STi V5 Type R short engine. I had this built as spare engine but getting one steel built so its no longer required. £1250 plus P&P

Scoobyfirsttime

Would that fit in a 2001 WRC ? What does V5 Tyoe R mean ?

Scoobyfirsttime

Also I guess in answer The Chief - what is the difference between a short block and a complete engine ?

Sorry I don't know that much at the moment, I am learning though

jaytc2003

iTrader: (1)

short block is basically the bottom half of the engine, block, crank, pistons, rods etc so you would need to transfer your heads over to the shortblock to have a complete engine.

Scoobyfirsttime

Cheers for the reply. So basically if I brought a short engine I would have to be sure that the cylinder head etc on my old engine hasn't also been damaged. I can't imagine it would have been given that the piston went through the block......mind you as I said before I am on a bit of a learning curve here

niceirishguyie

would this be like the p1 engine anyone know im looking for an engine for my p1

LegacySTi

iTrader: (13)

PM replied. Yes P1 started life as a STi5 type R.

scoobyaks

my scooby blew up at the weekend its a my97 wrx i was goin to use essex scooby breakers has any one used them and are they like john: