Changing plugs on MY99
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Changing plugs on MY99
I tried a while ago but after 30 minutes I hadn't gotten anywhere..
Any ideas? Is there an easy way apart from taking the engine out??
Any ideas? Is there an easy way apart from taking the engine out??
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2 ways I've heard discussed... Too chicken to do it myself until now.
2xsparkplug sockets, one on top of the other, then a regular socket driver on the top.
2xbendy links on top of the sparkplug socket then the driver.
IMO if you can get the right length sockets, the first idea is better as there's less chance of putting odd loads on the plug.
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2xsparkplug sockets, one on top of the other, then a regular socket driver on the top.
2xbendy links on top of the sparkplug socket then the driver.
IMO if you can get the right length sockets, the first idea is better as there's less chance of putting odd loads on the plug.
J.
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Originally Posted by joekont
I tried a while ago but after 30 minutes I hadn't gotten anywhere..
Any ideas? Is there an easy way apart from taking the engine out??
Any ideas? Is there an easy way apart from taking the engine out??
All the same its a pain in the a##. Just an awkward job. Not sure there is an easy way. But if you can do it yourself it saves paying someone else.
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The biggest problem is the chassis rails are in the way.
I haven't got an airbox so thats not a problem.
I tried on the front left (looking at the car) and managed to get a plug socket on the plug but couldn't get the ratchet on the extension bar....
Someone did say there was a special tool available...
Any gen??
I haven't got an airbox so thats not a problem.
I tried on the front left (looking at the car) and managed to get a plug socket on the plug but couldn't get the ratchet on the extension bar....
Someone did say there was a special tool available...
Any gen??
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As said above, remove the airbox and the washer res from the passenger side, i usually remove the battery as well just because of the risk of the terminals contacting again whilst removed.
I then use a 3/8ths spark plug socket with the rubber boot removed, other wise i find it a PITA to get the plug into the socket, on the end of that is a 3/8ths to quarter inch adaptor then a quarter back to 3/8ths adaptor then a universal joint, this gives you just about the right depth to get into the hole in the head and still fit a 3/8ths ratchet inbetween the head and the chassis rail.
If its the first time you have done this take your time and dont force the plug socket into the heads, i once tried it with my quarter inch plug socket and got the socket stuck in the head!
All this is done from the top of the car, have tried from the top and underneath and found this the easyest least knuckle grinding way, just needs a few extra things removed.
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I then use a 3/8ths spark plug socket with the rubber boot removed, other wise i find it a PITA to get the plug into the socket, on the end of that is a 3/8ths to quarter inch adaptor then a quarter back to 3/8ths adaptor then a universal joint, this gives you just about the right depth to get into the hole in the head and still fit a 3/8ths ratchet inbetween the head and the chassis rail.
If its the first time you have done this take your time and dont force the plug socket into the heads, i once tried it with my quarter inch plug socket and got the socket stuck in the head!
All this is done from the top of the car, have tried from the top and underneath and found this the easyest least knuckle grinding way, just needs a few extra things removed.
Dan.
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Originally Posted by Turbotits
,But as said you must use 3/8th drive tools.
You just need a few different sized extension bars and a ratchet without a release button on the back.
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Originally Posted by SCOOBY TOWERS
Not 100% correct - I changed mine last week and I only used 1/2" drive tools.
You just need a few different sized extension bars and a ratchet without a release button on the back.
You just need a few different sized extension bars and a ratchet without a release button on the back.
I'll have another go....
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LOL - Its the varying sized extensions that help.
Also if your spark plug socket has a rubber "holder" built into it, squirt a bit of WD40 onto it so it doesn't hold onto the plug too tightly.
I also find its better to wind the plug in by hand then just nip it up with the socket at the end - makes sure its not cross threaded.
Also if your spark plug socket has a rubber "holder" built into it, squirt a bit of WD40 onto it so it doesn't hold onto the plug too tightly.
I also find its better to wind the plug in by hand then just nip it up with the socket at the end - makes sure its not cross threaded.
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i changed mine the other week - first time on a scoob - looks daunting but it took me an hour - in the snow!! (not snowing just inches deep )
as you look at the engine i started on the passenger side, remove the bolts that hold the washer bottle and move out the way - not sure if you have coil packs same as mine? (my93?) i just loosened these with a 12? pos 13 mil spanner - then removed with fingers i found it easier to put the socket and small extension in before attaching my ratchet (3/8)
drivers side just remove the airbox and the metal bracket that it rests on access is same as other side
i reckon i could do it in half the time if i were to do it again
hth
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as you look at the engine i started on the passenger side, remove the bolts that hold the washer bottle and move out the way - not sure if you have coil packs same as mine? (my93?) i just loosened these with a 12? pos 13 mil spanner - then removed with fingers i found it easier to put the socket and small extension in before attaching my ratchet (3/8)
drivers side just remove the airbox and the metal bracket that it rests on access is same as other side
i reckon i could do it in half the time if i were to do it again
hth
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Pretty much same advice. May be possible with 1/2" drives, but easier with 3/8".
Remove airbox (where applicable) and washer bottle to give better access.
A "wobbly" extension to fit the plug socket is useful. What I mean is an extension bar which fits rigidly at the socket in, but which is wobbly at the plug socket end. Don't know how to describe it properly. I borrowed one from a Subaru specialist here in Japan to do the ones on the washer bottle side, other side was easier.
You should be able to screw in and unscrew largely by hand with a socket needed to nip it up and uncrack it. There are supposed to be torque setting for the plugs, but God knows how you can get enough access for a torque wrench unless you drop the engine
Remove airbox (where applicable) and washer bottle to give better access.
A "wobbly" extension to fit the plug socket is useful. What I mean is an extension bar which fits rigidly at the socket in, but which is wobbly at the plug socket end. Don't know how to describe it properly. I borrowed one from a Subaru specialist here in Japan to do the ones on the washer bottle side, other side was easier.
You should be able to screw in and unscrew largely by hand with a socket needed to nip it up and uncrack it. There are supposed to be torque setting for the plugs, but God knows how you can get enough access for a torque wrench unless you drop the engine
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Tis' a wobble bar
No need to torque spark plugs, thats for the **** brigade, but they will still be in the shed trying to get oil to soak through the oil filter and reading the latest copy of Combustion Engine Monthly.
Best advice I would offer (and as others have mentioned) get a nice little set of various length 3/8th extension bars.
No need to torque spark plugs, thats for the **** brigade, but they will still be in the shed trying to get oil to soak through the oil filter and reading the latest copy of Combustion Engine Monthly.
Best advice I would offer (and as others have mentioned) get a nice little set of various length 3/8th extension bars.
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As a member of the "**** bigade", I would have to disagree with you. Spark plugs need to transfer heat to the cylinder head to operate in the correct heat range, and correct heat transfer is accomplished when the plug is tightened to specification. If the plug is undertorqued the gasket is not crushed enough and if it is overtorqued you run the risk of thread damage in the head. I have seen many cars with the plugs loose and losing compression past the threads. With the right tools plugs can be torqued relatively easily. Spec is 20lb/ft. Now escuse me as I get back to my copy of Combustion Engine Monthly.
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Tis' a wobble bar
No need to torque spark plugs, thats for the **** brigade, but they will still be in the shed trying to get oil to soak through the oil filter and reading the latest copy of Combustion Engine Monthly.
Best advice I would offer (and as others have mentioned) get a nice little set of various length 3/8th extension bars.
No need to torque spark plugs, thats for the **** brigade, but they will still be in the shed trying to get oil to soak through the oil filter and reading the latest copy of Combustion Engine Monthly.
Best advice I would offer (and as others have mentioned) get a nice little set of various length 3/8th extension bars.
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http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=040215395
This kit works well, never failed me.
Only use the ratchet for the 1st element on undoing, and then by hand. When re installing the plugs, do by hand, and then just a final tighten with the ratchet.
This kit works well, never failed me.
Only use the ratchet for the 1st element on undoing, and then by hand. When re installing the plugs, do by hand, and then just a final tighten with the ratchet.
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Originally Posted by P20SPD
Power Tools - Machine Mart Power Tools & Machinery
This kit works well, never failed me.
Only use the ratchet for the 1st element on undoing, and then by hand. When re installing the plugs, do by hand, and then just a final tighten with the ratchet.
This kit works well, never failed me.
Only use the ratchet for the 1st element on undoing, and then by hand. When re installing the plugs, do by hand, and then just a final tighten with the ratchet.
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