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Old 18 October 2001, 09:06 AM
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The 4 side windows in my MY98 all have deep scratches running up and down the length of the glass at one particular point. This seems to have been caused by the glass rubbing on something inside the door panel as it moves up and down.

I've seen a few other scoobs with the same problem so I was wondering is this fairly common? Is it due to the fact that the door has no frame for the glass to run up and down?

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Old 18 October 2001, 12:50 PM
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I've got this on my 95WRX and I know there have been posts about it before. I presume that as it hasn't got a frame to guide it as it goes up it must move and scrap on something inside the door!
Old 18 October 2001, 11:31 PM
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Gavin

I have a couple of small scratches on my side windows but I thought they were down to grit getting stuck between the outer seal and the glass.
How is your windscreen?, on a sunny day I can see scratches on mine where the wipers have been.This didn't happen on my last car which had the same Bosch wiper blades so I reckon the Scoob has glass that scratches easily.

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Old 19 October 2001, 08:44 AM
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I had both my front side windows replaced under warranty, along with modified felt pads in the doors.

Old 19 October 2001, 08:47 AM
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Andy

Yip, my windscreen is scratched too but I put this down to the previous owner who I thought couldnt be bothered changing his wipers.

However, I am getting it replaced through my insurance which isnt too bad.

Old 19 October 2001, 10:01 PM
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My two front windows are scratched too. I didn't see any point replacing them only for them to scratch again in the future.



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Old 20 October 2001, 05:27 PM
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i had all 4 replaced by subaru
its caused by some small pads in the doors that make the window go up and down correctly theyget full of dirt etc and cause the scratching.
they changed them no problem
my car is a s98 terzo
under warranty


Old 22 October 2001, 06:45 PM
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Yeah Gav,

Sounds like the pads in the door. Last time i had this I took the door cards off, rolled the windows down and brushed the pads with a tooth brush Stopped it happening for a couple of months @ least Hey make it a part of yer cleaning routine

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Old 24 October 2001, 02:33 AM
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Add my UK MY98 name to the list, although when I realised my warranty had just run out.

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Old 28 October 2001, 10:00 PM
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Hi All

Yep, same problem on my 95UK 5 door both O/S/F & O/S/R door windows
Looks awful when glass has just been cleaned!

Paul
Old 29 October 2001, 03:23 PM
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I also have this problem - noticed when I cleaned this weekend.

Looks like a call to the dealer is in order.

T.
Old 12 November 2001, 07:06 PM
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Just purchased a UK 98 Turbo and have the same scratches.
Checked 10 other cars at the same dealer from P to V reg and they all have them (to varying degrees). Before I get onto the dealer, I have a 2 year (purchased) warrentee from Subaru, have any of you out there had the windows replaced under this warrentee or have you used the original manufacturer one ?

PS: I have also noticed that if you open and close the windows, the seal between the window by the mirror on both front windows leaks air at 70+ mph. You cannot hear it if you have the stereo on, but is this standard or just on mine ?

Cheers,

Colin (Milton Keynes Area).
Old 13 November 2001, 09:44 AM
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Colin,

1st off welcome to the board

The air leaks come as std on the Scoob It`s because there is no window frame as such. IMHO The only way to avoid this is to open the door befor rolling the windows up Remember to stop the car 1st though yeah

Have phun
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Old 14 November 2001, 06:11 PM
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Cheers for that info and the welcome. Just as long as I am not the only one with the problem. Still would like to know if anyone has had the scratched windows and the internal pads replaced under one of the Subaru Extended warrentees..? The window is also very slow...Regards, Colin
Old 17 November 2001, 09:15 PM
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Colin, exactly the same model, the same scratches, same slow windows and the same purchased 2 year warranty. I will be trying out the after market service under this warranty when the car goes in for the 35,000 mile service and to check for piston slap.
Old 19 November 2001, 11:12 AM
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OK...at least its normal and not just my car...

I am going to give the Scoob Wtee people an "anonymous" call later today if I can too.

Please let me know if you are able to get it done and what the Wtee company or dealer call the problem (or how they describe it so that is is fixable under wtee). From past experience, the wording or supposed "cause" for certain problems can make the difference between a fixable problem under wtee or not. Having a good dealer who is able to word it correctly to actually help you out is what its all about.

Cheers,

Colin..
Old 20 November 2001, 08:52 PM
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Teknopete,

How easy is it to get the door cards off? My windows are a bit slow/getting scratched as well so a clean/replacement of the pads is in order

Regards.


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Old 20 November 2001, 09:00 PM
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Teknopete,

How easy is it to get the door cards off? My windows are a bit slow/getting scratched as well so a clean/replacement of the pads is in order

Regards.


Francis

[Edited by Francis K - 11/22/2001 9:34:17 PM]
Old 20 November 2001, 11:13 PM
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The scratches are caused as a result of the window glass needing adjustment on the mechanism within the door. A further symptom is the glass not seating on the rubber seal on B post when window is up resulting in draughts/wind noise. I had this problem on drivers door and my local dealer sorted it, cost £60 labour charge though.
Old 22 November 2001, 11:06 AM
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Removal of the door panels is easy, undo the couple of various screws under the clipped in covers and then pop off the panel from the bottom edge. There are about 10 push in studs that hold it in place. Then lift it upwards and it will come away. The only thing to do then is to remove the snap connectors that hold all the wiring in place. You can however get to everything without touching the wiring..
You can see the window pads and glass housing with it off but still connected via the wires.
Old 25 November 2001, 02:32 PM
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We too have had front (side) glass replaced under warranty due to scratches. After only a week or so they were back !!

I had even had the conversation with the dealer re the cause, he said "it is all sorted now".

All sorted my ar*e !

MY 99 Turbo 2000.
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